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Rustler Mon, August 3rd, 2009 07:14 PM

Gryphon / pod questions
 
Just received my Gryphon I have several questions.

Yes I did use "search" didn't find much relating to my questions.

My pod doesn't come close to fitting the area above the A/C vent so quite a bit of trimming / fine tuning will be in order.
1. Is this common?
2. How did you get your pod to fit correctly?
3. Where do you install the velcro and L bracket?
4. What is the short lead 4 prong connector on the supplied cable near the OBD connection for?

I have about 30 more but I'll wait till I get more familiar with it.


Any suggestions? TIA ...R

dang no EOT?
Bill, got fuel7? :lookaround1: :pokepoop:

Longshot270 Mon, August 3rd, 2009 07:44 PM

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First, what year model is it? Mine didnt have any velcro or brackets, just had plastic molding that went around the plastic above the A/C. Should look like this.

Rustler Mon, August 3rd, 2009 08:09 PM

It is a 2007 F 150, the velcro and the L bracket were in a little baggie not on the pod itself.

Longshot270 Mon, August 3rd, 2009 08:11 PM

I probably got one but havent used it. Did your come with a big plastic thing to hold the programmer?

Rustler Mon, August 3rd, 2009 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by longshot270 (Post 13182)
I probably got one but havent used it. Did your come with a big plastic thing to hold the programmer?

Yes mine came with the mounting pod. That's what doesn't fit.

Longshot270 Mon, August 3rd, 2009 08:34 PM

I'd measure it with a tape measure to make sure its the right size, I know that mine is kind of hard to get on, you just gotta push down until it slide/clicks into place.

Rustler Mon, August 3rd, 2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Groovy Chick (Post 13183)
See answers in red.

Ive seen several pictures of them mine looks similar but is about 1/8" too wide in front where it meets the ac vent area. Also when i first tried to install it it sat 3/8" high on the front inside edge, the outward side was flush. The top outside of the pod hits the pillar before it sits in what the pictures show as the correct location.
Nothing holds it on, if I accelerate quickly or drive on a rough / bumpy road it falls off. Which is concerning because it has scratched through the color finish in a small area of the dash.

So what I'm saying is I'm almost positive its the right pod maybe this one is warped or was missed in QC. The pod I had with the edge unit I returned popped right into place and stayed there it didn't hit the pillar.

Thanks for the responses!

Jackpine Mon, August 3rd, 2009 08:58 PM

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Rustler, your pod should be a "flint grey" color that matches the majority of the late model F150s. Is this the case?

If so, it should just kind of "snap down onto the part of the dash to the left of the gauges. I didn't need any kind of help from "velcro" or anything to hold it in place. I've attached a picture of mine (in action). :)

I tossed the velcro and aluminum L-bracket away. I didn't see how I could use them and I didn't need them.

- Jack

Rustler Mon, August 3rd, 2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 13191)
Rustler, your pod should be a "flint grey" color that matches the majority of the late model F150s. Is this the case?

If so, it should just kind of "snap down onto the part of the dash to the left of the gauges. I didn't need any kind of help from "velcro" or anything to hold it in place. I've attached a picture of mine (in action). :)

I tossed the velcro and aluminum L-bracket away. I didn't see how I could use them and I didn't need them.

- Jack

YEP, it kinda matches the flint gray. It looks very similar to your picture and all the others Ive seen.

I took pictures but have no way to post them.

I do appreciate everyone help but even if i used a 5lb sledge hammer this things not gonna pop into anything, it hits the pillar before it gets near the correct location seems warped and is too wide. It looks identical to my neighbors edge pod which i installed, it looks similar to the edge pod I installed on this truck then removed and returned.

Rustler Mon, August 3rd, 2009 10:25 PM

pictures added
 
Hope this works

http://rides.webshots.com/album/573874837utagCP

Longshot270 Mon, August 3rd, 2009 10:47 PM

I had a little bit of trouble with mine being really tight. I put the wire through and snug it up to the post, push the front part(gryphon side) in and go around to the steering wheel side. I pulled on the peice above the gauges to give it some space between that and the smoother plastic then work that side in before finishing up with the back(windshield side). I dont think that the part against the post is in all the way but since I dont see it while driving it doesnt bother me any.

Jackpine Tue, August 4th, 2009 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rustler (Post 13196)

The pictures worked.

That's really weird! Yours definitely is not shaped right. The wood-grain panel doesn't help the look either, does it? Wish Ford could standardize this part of the dash.

I have to guess the pod is defective. Could you measure the width of the dash where the pod fits in front? My pod opening and the dash width there is about exactly 5 1/2 inches across.

- Jack

Rustler Tue, August 4th, 2009 09:18 AM

That's whats odd Jack, the outside edge of the pod where it meets the side panel and above the wood grain panel sits flush and blends nicely. Its the inside towards the OE gauge cluster hump that's all outa whack.
Yes i have studied / measured the wood grain panel it is 100% true, plum and correct.
I will never own another truck with the wood grain crap in it, too dang hard / time consuming to take care of it.

My dash where the pod fits in front is exactly 5 9/16" wide.
The pod measured in the exact spot as above is exactly 5 23/32 wide.
Both measured outside to outside edge.

Thanks for the help.

Jackpine Tue, August 4th, 2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rustler (Post 13213)
That's whats odd Jack, the outside edge of the pod where it meets the side panel and above the wood grain panel sits flush and blends nicely. Its the inside towards the OE gauge cluster hump that's all outa whack.
Yes i have studied / measured the wood grain panel it is 100% true, plum and correct.
I will never own another truck with the wood grain crap in it, too dang hard / time consuming to take care of it.

My dash where the pod fits in front is exactly 5 9/16" wide.
The pod measured in the exact spot as above is exactly 5 23/32 wide.
Both measured outside to outside edge.

Thanks for the help.

OK, I was measuring the "inside" dimension of the pod and got 5 1.2"", which seemed to correspond to the point on the dash where it begins to curve away from "flat" (if I'm making any sense at all here) :shrug:

Whatever, your 5 9/16" outside to outside tells me our dash dimensions are identical. Your pod is clearly misshapen in my opinion. I'm sure Corey will be happy to send you another one. I'll try to make sure she sees this thread again.

I'm with you on the fake "wood grain" crap. I've got it in the center of my panel (where the radio and A/C sit). To me, it just looks "cheap".

- Jack

teeroy Tue, August 4th, 2009 03:50 PM

mine didnt fit exactly out the gate at first but after some trimming it fits perfect now. from the looks of yours it seems like your wood trim is interfering with it. id say bust out the dremmel and trim the front and right sides of the panels where it meets with your dash.

Rustler Tue, August 4th, 2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by teeroy (Post 13228)
mine didnt fit exactly out the gate at first but after some trimming it fits perfect now. from the looks of yours it seems like your wood trim is interfering with it. id say bust out the dremmel and trim the front and right sides of the panels where it meets with your dash.

Thanks for the suggestion, the pod isn't touching the wood grain piece at all.
The pod will not move into the correct position due to hitting the pillar. Even if I cut 3/8" off the outboard side and top of the pod to get it to clear the pillar it still wouldn't fit flush in the front lower right corner or along the dash.
I deal with things that are measured in thousandths of an inch every day. Believe it or not I know how to measure stuff and make things fit correctly.
If I get the go ahead from PHP I will start trimming on it, problem is what if I make it worse.

This am I took the edge pod from my neighbors truck it popped right in place just like the edge pod I had at one time did. It fit flush, looked just like the picture of Jacks.
When I set it on a table beside my neighbors edge pod this pod is obviously misshaped or warped.

I've repeated myself a couple of times but just incase it was missed. I bought and returned an edge with a pod about a month ago, that pod fit correctly, snapped right into place.

I haven't had a chance to contact Corey at all on this very slight issue, in no way am I complaining.

I just saw Corey's post, Thank you.

Power Hungry Tue, August 4th, 2009 05:10 PM

As near as I can tell, it's the wood-grain panel causing an odd shift in the location of the front of the pod. It looks like it's lifting the front which causes it to hit the pillar and that is shifting the location of everything else. I can't recall ever seeing an installation with the wood-grain kit so I can't make any judgment as to whether or not that is actually the problem or not.

With that said, the pod is fairly flexible and can handle a bit of twisting in order to get it into place. I'm just concerned about the location of the pillar and how it's pushing against the corner of the pod. There's usually a reasonable amount of space between the pod and pillar but again, I am not sure if it's the wood-grain that's interfering.

You wouldn't happen to have a neighbor or a friend with an F150 close by that you can try fitting the pod on do you? If it is a problem with the pod then we'd certainly be happy to replace it for you. I'd just hat to send another one and end up with the same problem.

Let me know how we can help.

Jackpine Tue, August 4th, 2009 05:27 PM

Uh, Bill - did you read Rustler's post right above yours? He HAS compared his pod with a neighbors and they're different. His neighbors pod fit his truck, but his is distorted (and from his pictures, is too wide across the front).

- Jack

Power Hungry Tue, August 4th, 2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 13240)
Uh, Bill - did you read Rustler's post right above yours? He HAS compared his pod with a neighbors and they're different. His neighbors pod fit his truck, but his is distorted (and from his pictures, is too wide across the front).

- Jack

I think he was posting the same time was so it wasn't there when I clicked Post Reply.

If the neighbors pod fits, then a replacement is in order. We'll include a return shipping label; you can put the defective pod in the same box and either drop it off at a UPS store or give it to any UPS driver. :)

Jackpine Tue, August 4th, 2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Groovy Chick (Post 13243)
I'm in a total quandary, but I'm already eager to see what your pod looks like compared to the ones we have in stock. :cheesy smile:

Looking at the pictures he posted, the pod is totally misshapen. And, it doesn't just look "warped" to me, it looks like it was in a bad mold.

- Jack

Rustler Tue, August 4th, 2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Groovy Chick (Post 13245)
Just printed out both labels, John. It'll go out tomorrow!

Thank you, I appreciate your high level customer service.:2thumbs:

Sorry to have caused a ruckus..R

Oh yeah e-mail sent

Jackpine Wed, August 5th, 2009 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rustler (Post 13255)
Thank you, I appreciate your high level customer service.:2thumbs:

Sorry to have caused a ruckus..R

Oh yeah e-mail sent

The "customer service" is the KEY thing about PHP, other than an outstanding product!

It wasn't a ruckus - you simply reported a problem in a calm, reasonable way.

- Jack

88Racing Wed, August 5th, 2009 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rustler (Post 13255)
Thank you, I appreciate your high level customer service.:2thumbs:

Sorry to have caused a ruckus..R

Oh yeah e-mail sent

Thank you!

For the way you handled the problem.
It's great to see someone use the resources you did to show it to us and others.

Lars:2thumbs:

Rustler Fri, August 14th, 2009 08:45 PM

I received the new pod Monday it popped right into place, no need for velcro or L bracket, it stays put like it should, looks a lot better than the returned pod did. :thumbs up yellow:

I'm a little embarrassed to admit that I didn't notice any material missing from one side. I'm guessing that's what made it hit the pillar so it wouldn't pop into place.

Thanks again :2thumbs:

Jackpine Fri, August 14th, 2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rustler (Post 13983)
I received the new pod Monday it popped right into place, no need for velcro or L bracket, it stays put like it should, looks a lot better than the returned pod did. :thumbs up yellow:

I'm a little embarrassed to admit that I didn't notice any material missing from one side. I'm guessing that's what made it hit the pillar so it wouldn't pop into place.

Thanks again :2thumbs:

Hey - don't be embarrassed at all! Why the heck should YOU be? You don't handle these things on a daily basis, how would you know? But, you brought the issue up in an adult, reasonable way and things got sorted out. I'm pleased at the way things happened here. Just shows how a "collaborative" approach can make good things happen.

Glad the new pod works! (Fits pretty darned nicely, doesn't it?)

- Jack

Power Hungry Fri, August 14th, 2009 10:19 PM

When I get a second, I'm going to take some pictures of the pods. It's crazy how "off" it was. I can't even imagine how it happened. Oh well...

Glad everything fits nicely. As "Hannibal" Smith used to say, "I love it when a plan comes together."

Enjoy. :D


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