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thedieselguru Wed, May 5th, 2010 07:10 PM

Tuning for single shots
 
A guy at the shop has an '02 that we are looking at putting 160/30's in. Is it all timing changes or is there more to it?

Roger

907DAVE Wed, May 5th, 2010 07:20 PM

Little bit timing, the biggest change is in PW (dropped).

907DAVE Wed, May 5th, 2010 07:35 PM

Here it the PW maps comparing the two, splits on the left.


http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t.../untitled4.jpg

thedieselguru Thu, May 6th, 2010 08:18 PM

Um, big difference! Are those stock maps or maps from tunes?

cleatus12r Thu, May 6th, 2010 08:23 PM

Stockers.

schmity Sat, May 8th, 2010 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 907dave (Post 32269)
Here it the PW maps comparing the two, splits on the left.


http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t.../untitled4.jpg

Looks like from the graph of the single shot that anything ICP pressure over 13 MPa doesn't have any effect on flow or Pulse width.

907DAVE Sun, May 9th, 2010 03:19 AM

Pretty much!

As long as the load (MFD) stays the same PW remains constant throughout the ICP ranges.

cleatus12r Sun, May 9th, 2010 01:04 PM

duplicate post

cleatus12r Sun, May 9th, 2010 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schmity (Post 32523)
Looks like from the graph of the single shot that anything ICP pressure over 13 MPa doesn't have any effect on flow or Pulse width.

Because the injectors can only deliver so much fuel on the OBS trucks and Ford didn't "push" the injectors very hard on the older HEUI system (where that map came from). That's why the pedal feels "dead" after half throttle or so :rolleyes: .

907DAVE Sun, May 9th, 2010 03:49 PM

Makes good sense.

Cody, would you say those injectors are pretty much maxed out, or is there any room for improvement via tuning?

cleatus12r Sun, May 9th, 2010 04:24 PM

The AA's?

I've got mine maxed out on my 95 right now. The accelerator pedal feel is AWESOME, but anything past about 1/2 throttle at 2000 RPM+ is dead space. I'd call it 60 HP by the seat-o-the-pants dyno. Basically, all you get with tuning on the OBS trucks with stock injectors is fuel down low and more power before 2000 RPM. Not saying that there are no gains above 2000 RPM because that isn't the case. With some SOI and injection pressure, you get gains up top, but it's nothing to write home about.

907DAVE Sun, May 9th, 2010 05:35 PM

I have always felt that the Powerstroke's just seem to level off around 2/3 throttle anyways, with stock sticks.

Is there any explanation for this, or just a injector volume thing?

cleatus12r Sun, May 9th, 2010 05:40 PM

The proverbial nail on head.

thedieselguru Mon, May 10th, 2010 06:47 AM

AC's can solve that with some tuning though. Lots more volume.


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