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RedFX4 Fri, November 26th, 2010 05:53 PM

F1 code
 
What the devil does it mean? Showed up while trying to upload my custom tunes again after being at the stealership. I assume the buggers reflashed my PCM.

Please tell me I don't have to wait another 6 weeks to get my tunes redone:thumbsdwn: I hate this truck on its stock setting sooooo much. Drives like total crap.

RedFX4 Fri, November 26th, 2010 07:07 PM

Can I re-download canned tunes and run them in the meantime?

ticopowell Sat, November 27th, 2010 12:31 AM

Firstly what truck do you have? and I dont have a clue what that error means, but I do know you can run your truck on canned while you are waiting on custom tunes.

RedFX4 Sat, November 27th, 2010 04:26 AM

Sorry its an 08 F150. The code popped up while it was writing the checksum file. After I wouldn't go away or anything until I unplugged it. I'm guessing it has everything to do with the PCM being reflashed.

Jackpine Sat, November 27th, 2010 10:51 AM

Red, I doubt you were "flashed" - The error code 0xF1 can sometimes appear during programming. Try this:
1. Leave the ignition key in the ON position.
2. Disconnect the Gryphon at the OBDII port.
3. Plug the Gryphon back into the OBDII port.
4. After getting to the main screen, wait 15 seconds for needed parameters to be loaded.
If you still cannot program the PCM successfully, contact PHP for assistance.

I THINK your programmer simply did not boot properly after you got your truck back from the dealership.

AND - please insure your battery is fully charged and that both the truck and the Gryphon are "warm" (now that cold weather is here).

- Jack

RedFX4 Sat, November 27th, 2010 04:04 PM

I checked the HEX code in my Pegasus registration and it no longer matched what the Gryphon reads in my truck once I got the Gryphon unfrozen.

Pegasus : RDXG3B3
Gryphon/Truck : RDXG6B3

I think I'm just SOL. Is there a quicker turn around on getting tunes reworked for a new HEX than getting them from scratch? I put in a request already.

I should also mention that when I tried programming the custom tune in again I got the same message. Error code F1 (no 0x before). The file is not yet supported. I've seen the same issue posted but never an explanation of the issue, except for one where the S/N was buggered. I've used the tunes prior with no issues so why would it give me that error? Can this same error be displayed when the PCM has a different HEX code than what the tunes were for?

ticopowell Sun, November 28th, 2010 05:30 AM

I hate to say it but either the truck was reflashed, your grypon doesnt like you, or something in the works is possessed! :smiley_roll1: HAHA jk... but yeah I would guess something either fried the gryphon or your truck got reflashed... but dont take my words for much, im just guessing. your best bet would be to call Bill and see what he has to say about it. and if noone answers, call back until they do! lol

RedFX4 Sun, November 28th, 2010 05:45 PM

Hesitant to believe that its "fried". Hard to fry electronics when their unplugged unless its an open circuit board. It still functions normally as is, it just won't upload tunes. I'll be calling Bill tomorrow. Hopefully things will get sorted out sooner rather than later.

Jackpine Sun, November 28th, 2010 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFX4 (Post 41523)
I checked the HEX code in my Pegasus registration and it no longer matched what the Gryphon reads in my truck once I got the Gryphon unfrozen.

Pegasus : RDXG3B3
Gryphon/Truck : RDXG6B3

I think I'm just SOL. Is there a quicker turn around on getting tunes reworked for a new HEX than getting them from scratch? I put in a request already.

I should also mention that when I tried programming the custom tune in again I got the same message. Error code F1 (no 0x before). The file is not yet supported. I've seen the same issue posted but never an explanation of the issue, except for one where the S/N was buggered. I've used the tunes prior with no issues so why would it give me that error? Can this same error be displayed when the PCM has a different HEX code than what the tunes were for?

Well, you now have a different "version number" in the identification for the "stock coding" of your PCM, and yes, this means you were "reflashed". It's a puzzle to me why they would have changed the version and nothing else though. Was your truck built for a different part of the country/world than where it is now?

And sadly, this looks like a remake of the tunes you have. Custom tunes will not work with a new hex code.

- Jack

RedFX4 Mon, November 29th, 2010 12:44 AM

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It's a puzzle to me why they would have changed the version and nothing else though.
Well, that's because I failed to mention that they did transmission work, my fault. It would seem to me anytime they do anything to your transmission they reflash the PCM. Why they can't just flash to the same HEX code I don't know. Obviously that HEX worked otherwise they wouldn't produce it but they still reprogram it to a different one everytime. What a PITA.

Jackpine Mon, November 29th, 2010 11:29 AM

I remember the transmission from another thread, I think. I'm still just as puzzled as you as to why the version number in the stock tune has to change. :shrug:

But unless this is a totally new calibration, you SHOULD be able to operate your truck on canned tunes while you're waiting for your custom tunes to be rebuilt. (And, it won't cause any problem with your custom tunes either.)

Just start Pegasus, connect the Gryphon and click on [Update]->[Gryphon Update Manager]. Allow Pegasus to update BOTH your firmware and your calibrations (the tunes). Then, you SHOULD be able to reprogram your truck above "stock", and I would recommend the Level 2 "tow" tune as a very good all-around tune.

You should also update your registration in Pegasus with the new hex code. This MAY need to be done before you update the Gryphon itself, and I think it's automatic with the Gryphon plugged in if you click on [Help]->[Registration], then possibly [Clear] to remove the old data and [Retrieve] to transfer the new data.

Hope all this helps and I hope Bill is able to remake your custom tunes soon.

- Jack

88Racing Mon, November 29th, 2010 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFX4 (Post 41555)
Well, that's because I failed to mention that they did transmission work, my fault. It would seem to me anytime they do anything to your transmission they reflash the PCM. Why they can't just flash to the same HEX code I don't know. Obviously that HEX worked otherwise they wouldn't produce it but they still reprogram it to a different one everytime. What a PITA.

"Why can't I ever turn on my computer without an update message popping up?????"

It's no different than you trucks pcm.....Ford finds fixes and the techs at the dealership are only following protocol.....when they get trucks in with issues....that's all.

RedFX4 Mon, November 29th, 2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

I'm still just as puzzled as you as to why the version number in the stock tune has to change.
You lost me. All I know is that I get an F1 code when attempting to upload the custom tunes and that my gryphon reads a different HEX code. I'll put the canned tunes back on the gryphon tomorrow.

Jackpine Mon, November 29th, 2010 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFX4 (Post 41572)
You lost me. All I know is that I get an F1 code when attempting to upload the custom tunes and that my gryphon reads a different HEX code. I'll put the canned tunes back on the gryphon tomorrow.

What I was saying there, is that the "version" number (the 5th character in the hex code) seems to be related to the region where the truck was sold (cold/hot climate, altitude taken into consideration), according to some research done by another truck owner. So, I'm puzzled why this had to change for you just because you got a new/rebuilt transmission?

Of course, my information source could be wrong. :shrug: I just know the characters in the hex code DO identify the particular stock tune that is loaded.

- Jack

88Racing Tue, November 30th, 2010 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 41579)
What I was saying there, is that the "version" number (the 5th character in the hex code) seems to be related to the region where the truck was sold (cold/hot climate, altitude taken into consideration), according to some research done by another truck owner. So, I'm puzzled why this had to change for you just because you got a new/rebuilt transmission?

Of course, my information source could be wrong. :shrug: I just know the characters in the hex code DO identify the particular stock tune that is loaded.

- Jack

Remember jrthomas?
3 different trannys and each time the truck was reflashed.....

Jackpine Tue, November 30th, 2010 11:02 AM

I don't recall jrthomas and I just did a search on that username and came up blank. I'll take your word for it though - my rapidly fading brain cells aren't very dependable.

Still, I can't help but wonder: Why? Maybe Bill will have an answer - thanks, Corey.

- Jack

88Racing Tue, November 30th, 2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 41600)
I don't recall jrthomas and I just did a search on that username and came up blank. I'll take your word for it though - my rapidly fading brain cells aren't very dependable.

Still, I can't help but wonder: Why? Maybe Bill will have an answer - thanks, Corey.

- Jack

Sorry....I was close......jrthomas15.
http://forum.gopowerhungry.com/gener...r-code-f1.html

RedFX4 Tue, November 30th, 2010 04:25 PM

Well I put the canned tunes back on the Gryphon and they uploaded fine. I guess its just a waiting game now for the re-written custom files. Glad I'm not like that thomas guy and get the F1 code whilst trying to upload canned tunes too.

Quote:

I'm puzzled why this had to change for you just because you got a new/rebuilt transmission?
Best part is I didn't get a new transmission or have any heavy repairs done. Just a seal leading to the transfer case. Seems silly to me but I'm no mechanic.


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