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txjeep Fri, July 22nd, 2011 03:42 PM

New chip - How to remove Banks stuff?
 
Hey all. I received my new chip this week. My Excursion (7.3 2003) came with a Banks chip in it along with a Banks tranny module of some sort underneath (can't read the label too well anymore). Can anyone offer any cautions, tips, instructions on removing these items prior to installing the Phoenix?

Also, if the Banks chip works fine, can I assume that the silicone on the connector contacts has been removed sufficiently?

Thanks

Power Hungry Fri, July 22nd, 2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by txjeep (Post 49839)
Hey all. I received my new chip this week. My Excursion (7.3 2003) came with a Banks chip in it along with a Banks tranny module of some sort underneath (can't read the label too well anymore). Can anyone offer any cautions, tips, instructions on removing these items prior to installing the Phoenix?

The biggest thing when removing the Trans-Command is to VERY CAREFULLY remove 1 pin at a time from the trans command harness and insert in the corresponding connector hole in the original harness. There are 2 orange wires that you do NOT want to mix up. You will have to swap 3 wires back into the original transmission connector. Outside of that, it's not too difficult.

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Originally Posted by txjeep (Post 49839)
Also, if the Banks chip works fine, can I assume that the silicone on the connector contacts has been removed sufficiently?

Thanks

That's a fair assumption. However, give the contacts a light dusting with the Scotch-Brite just for good measure. Just a couple quick brushes will be sufficient to remove any oxidation.

Take care.

txjeep Fri, July 22nd, 2011 06:14 PM

Thanks for the info, but I am confused on removing the trans module. I removed the main harness from the tranny and pulled it down so I could see it. I pulled back the conduit and here are links to pics of what I am looking at. Can you give me a little more detail on what I am supposed to do? I think I have an idea, but would appreciate more info if possible. I also don't know how to remove and replace the wires from the harnesses. If you need more pics, let me know.

MobileMe Gallery

Thanks for any help.

txjeep Fri, July 22nd, 2011 06:22 PM

Stand by.

I found an owner's manual online for the Transcommand. I'll study that and get back to you if I can't figure it out. Thanks.

txjeep Fri, July 22nd, 2011 06:26 PM

I assume I must remove this Transcommand before I put the Phoenix in, right?

Power Hungry Fri, July 22nd, 2011 07:08 PM

You don't HAVE to remove the TransCommand, but you might find your shifts to be a tad aggressive.

txjeep Fri, July 22nd, 2011 07:10 PM

Okay, thanks again. I figured out the wiring and what to do now, so I am going to remove it.

I assume the Banks chip comes out in the reverse order that the PHP chip goes in?

cj45lc Fri, July 22nd, 2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by txjeep (Post 49845)
Okay, thanks again. I figured out the wiring and what to do now, so I am going to remove it.

I assume the Banks chip comes out in the reverse order that the PHP chip goes in?

Did you get the trans wires straightened out?

Yep the chips should just un-plug & plug-in from the PCM, they say to make sure the key is NOT in the ignition when you do it but I always un-hook the batt cables when I fool with the chip

txjeep Fri, July 22nd, 2011 07:59 PM

Yes, I just removed the trans module. Next is to swap the chips and mount the switch. Where do folks normally put the switch?

txjeep Fri, July 22nd, 2011 08:33 PM

Just took it for a spin. Didn't get to really test it out, but so far I am very pleased. The "theft" light blinks a lot. Is that normal? Also, will a key without a chip work in it now? Seems like I read that somewhere.

Thanks for all of the quick help!

cj45lc Fri, July 22nd, 2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by txjeep (Post 49856)
Just took it for a spin. Didn't get to really test it out, but so far I am very pleased. The "theft" light blinks a lot. Is that normal? Also, will a key without a chip work in it now? Seems like I read that somewhere.

Thanks for all of the quick help!

yep it's a pretty nice difference huh, as far as the switch I put mine by my right knee in the lower dash just right of the fuse panel cover. Some folks have put them in some pretty neat spots so look around on PSN or some of the other sites or maybe google TS switch.

Someone alot smarter than me will have to give you some answers on the theft light deal, BTW welcome to the PHP crew. :thumbs up yellow:

Power Hungry Fri, July 22nd, 2011 11:22 PM

Because of limitations in the TS chips, we have to disable PATS in the Excursion. In order to prevent the theft light from blinking, disconnect the plug from the PATS module. The module is located below the dash, just to the right of the accelerator pedal and should have a red plug on the bottom of it. Just disconnect and the light goes out.

Yes, a standard key will work now.

txjeep Fri, July 22nd, 2011 11:24 PM

Perfect. Thanks. I appreciate all of the help.

txjeep Mon, August 1st, 2011 12:38 AM

I just got through towing my 9000 Lb travel trailer a couple hundred miles. The heavy tow setting is perfect. I got better mpg than expected as well (10-12mpg depending on the wind).

I do have one issue though. My wife does not like the shifts in the 80DD program at all. I also think they are a bit harsh. Is there anything that can be done about that? Thanks!

cleatus12r Mon, August 1st, 2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by txjeep (Post 50155)
I do have one issue though. My wife does not like the shifts in the 80DD program at all. I also think they are a bit harsh. Is there anything that can be done about that? Thanks!


Reburn. If you would like to send the chip back, I will get you an RMA number and you can send it to me. I'll reburn it with less aggressive shifting in the 80DD (or any other programs that you need modified) and send it back.

txjeep Mon, August 1st, 2011 10:32 AM

Sounds good. Why don't you PM the info, address, instructions, etc. to me.

Thanks

txjeep Mon, September 26th, 2011 02:41 PM

FYI, the shifts are great now after the reburn. Very happy customer. Thanks.


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