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ticopowell Tue, October 4th, 2011 07:14 PM

Clutch Issues?
 
Hey all,
I just noticed today that I might have a problem with my clutch, It feels different, and I kinda think it feels like when I push it in all the way, that it doesnt go in all the way like it used to. I would equate it to having a clutch cable that is too long, but since it uses fluid, could it be that there isnt enough fluid in it? Thanks for the help, let me know what y'alls think!
:D

rammertide07 Tue, October 4th, 2011 08:44 PM

Not familiar with manual transmissions (except they are better and easier to work on), but just browsing at TDS and found a recent/active thread on a similar issue. Maybe you can find some info on it to help with your problem.

clutch on floor will not return - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com

ticopowell Wed, October 5th, 2011 12:16 AM

I looked over that, but i'm not sure that is the same problem. My clutch pedal goes down all the way to the floor, and it comes up just fine, but the first 6ish inches doesnt do anything to the clutch itself, and it feels like the clutch doesnt release all the way when the pedal is all the way to the floor... I had a very hard time of putting the truck in gear, especially reverse, when the engine was on, but once the engine was off it shifted just fine.

907DAVE Wed, October 5th, 2011 03:21 AM

Sounds like there might be a bit of air in the line.

Have you tried to bleed it yet?

Where is the fluid leaking?

ticopowell Wed, October 5th, 2011 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 907DAVE (Post 51841)
Sounds like there might be a bit of air in the line.

Have you tried to bleed it yet?

Where is the fluid leaking?

I haven't tried anything yet, and I haven't seen any leaks, I just based my ideas on how I thought it should work. I looked at the reservoir and I didn't see any fluids in it, should I have?

cj45lc Wed, October 5th, 2011 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticopowell (Post 51842)
I haven't tried anything yet, and I haven't seen any leaks, I just based my ideas on how I thought it should work. I looked at the reservoir and I didn't see any fluids in it, should I have?

If you don't have any fluid in the reservoir you probably have air in the line or slave cylinder. Fill the reservoir, bleed the system & find the leak, the fluid had to go somewhere.

cleatus12r Wed, October 5th, 2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rammertide07 (Post 51838)
Not familiar with manual transmissions (except they are better and easier to work on)

:hmmm:

You've never been into either style have you? :hehe:


Couldn't resist.....even on my forum reply hiatus. :whistle1:

rammertide07 Wed, October 5th, 2011 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleatus12r (Post 51860)
:hmmm:

You've never been into either style have you? :hehe:


Couldn't resist.....even on my forum reply hiatus. :whistle1:


Naww...I never have. Thats just what I've heard from other people that have. Thats not a job I would want to tackle myself on my daily driver.

So the automatic is easier???

ticopowell Thu, October 6th, 2011 09:54 AM

I couldn't tell ya which is easier... but I know the manual was expensive :/. $500ish to replace the master and slave cylinders, but it works great now! :D

907DAVE Thu, October 6th, 2011 11:30 AM

Manual tranny hard parts can be VERY expensive. I think most believe they are cheap to fix and hardly ever break, but the cost to rebuild a ZF is nearly double what it would be to do a 4R100.

rammertide07 Thu, October 6th, 2011 03:55 PM

Which is harder to work on?

Jeremy Wed, October 12th, 2011 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 907DAVE (Post 51895)
Manual tranny hard parts can be VERY expensive. I think most believe they are cheap to fix and hardly ever break, but the cost to rebuild a ZF is nearly double what it would be to do a 4R100.

Good thing they last twice as long... :rofl: Oh wait....sometimes they don't. My ZF6 tossed out the springs in the clutch, then the slave cyl failed, and then the clutch fork bent and failed..... and then and finally then the whole trans failed at ~70k. It lost the pocket bearing. I just exchanged it with the HO version thats in the 02-03's($1900). So far so good. I still perfer it for towing vs, 4R100's or the 5R110's. With the US gear OD behind it, it make for a awesome towing machine, Always in the right gear...

If it had a high HP truck with injectors, big oil and turbos, I'd run a 4R100 too, just for the fun factor. :cheesy smile:

ticopowell Wed, October 12th, 2011 10:30 AM

What is the US gear with OD? and would I want one?

rammertide07 Wed, October 12th, 2011 01:05 PM

Its a gear splitter, gives you like an in-between gear (1st, 1st-over, 2nd, 2nd-over...) Mounts between the transmission and differential. It helps the rpms from falling so much when pulling. I'm not sure if US Gear makes them anymore....I know Gear Vendor does...you can pick one up for $3k IIRC. If you do a lot of heavy towing it would be handy to have. I don't know what kind of power output they are rated too though. I think I've seen some 500hp trucks with Gear Vendors unit in Diesel Power.

My rebuild with some upgrades was $2100.

rammertide07 Wed, October 12th, 2011 01:07 PM

Also, sometimes it's an under/over drive...it will never give you 1:1 ratio. I think for a dedicated hauler it would be a good option.

cj45lc Wed, October 12th, 2011 06:05 PM

US Gear got bought out & no longer makes or services the O/U units, I just found this out last week from Barney. He has one & loves it. From what I seen when I was looking into it a few years ago I didn't think the Gear Vender was even close to the US Gear in strength, but then again I don't know everything...lol

ticopowell Thu, October 13th, 2011 11:25 AM

Cool, thanks :)

rammertide07 Thu, October 13th, 2011 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj45lc (Post 52048)
I didn't think the Gear Vender was even close to the US Gear in strength

I heard the same thing last week from a guy over at TDS


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