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Programming question
Ok so yesterday after driving about 15 miles, I stopped and decided to change the programmer to level 1 because I had about 400 miles of cruise on the interstate and no need for the higher octane gas. I still have the canned tunes right now. But heres my question when I went in to the programmer and selected the new level and hit enter,(with the ignition on) my truck beeped and I see on the digital message center it said "Check Gauges" I noticed my coolant gauge wasn't reading, but yet it was up to operation temp right before. But as soon as the programming finished it shot right back up to where it was and everybother gauge was normal.
So basically I was just wondering are all of yall seeing this while changing levels? I dont really see no problem with it, just made me a little nervous at first, and figured I would see if it normal. Thanks |
I can't recall the beep, but the "check gauges" part happens during normal programming.
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Interesting. I've never seen "check gauges", but I always program the PCM when the truck is cold in my garage. I notice the information center data is "wiped out" (just a series of dashes) during the process and that my trip odometer gets zeroed after the process is complete. This part's not right - see my post #12.
- Jack |
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Ty |
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No it actually happens right when I hit the enter button on selecting which level. (i.e.)So basically I get in turn key to on(truck off) hit menu,select power programing, select level one(in this case) and as soon as I hit enter then it beeps and says check gauges. But with all this being said, as Jack stated earlier, it hasn't happen when the truck wasn't warmed up just after getting it up to operation temp. But just that one gauge no other. I dont really see a problem with it since it works, I was just curious if anyone else was having the same thing happen to them. :beers: |
My guess is, this is just an "artifact" of doing it on a warm engine. Interesting though. You're the first person I've seen talk about it.
- Jack |
Hmmm. Just curious as I don't remember mine doing this. I must not have paid attention.
Ty |
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Ty, I definitely would have never noticed if I didn't hear the beep! Thanks all for the replys. |
If I were to make a semi-educated guess, I would think that the "check gauges" and other observations about the intrument cluster happen when the PCM gets put into programming mode. Our >2004 instument clusters get much of their info like speed and temps from the PCM via the CAN bus. So if the PCM is busy doing something critical like getting reprogrammed, it's possible that the usual information between the two stops and the instument cluster thinks it has lost its' "mommy" --the PCM, and the ICM "cries" the only way it knows how. It all gets better when the PCM comes back to life after programming and everybody (all the modules) start talking again.
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The trip meter gets wiped on a program? I am conidering picking up one of these units but I don't like that. I record my mileage and gas consumption religiously. And as forgetfull as I can be I would never remember to record it before a re-program.
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The trip meter display does not get deleted on your truck. |
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- Jack |
I know this is an semi-old thread but prior to the Edge being upgraded to the Gryphon whenever I programmed hot or cold I never got any of the "check gauges" on my display. My Gryphon just came UPS today so I had to run around for a bit and when I was at the local 7-11 I programed to my custom tune and I got the "check gauges" displayed which did go away after the programming was done.
I've never seen this and it did cause some panic attack for a second. :shrug: |
It would give me a heart attack too! I've never seen a "check gauges" display, and don't really know what you're talking about. Is this something that came up on the dash gauges?
Maybe, just maybe, it's the sign of a weak battery? Weak batteries seem to be the cause of MANY programming problems. - Jack |
Yes it was displayed on the dash LED display. Well my battery is the original and I'm in an 05 but my voltage is spot on and never had any major draws.
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I replaced my OEM battery about a year ago. I would not trust yours at all, due to its age.
We had a LONG thread on batteries a while ago, you might look for it. But, if you have a voltmeter, take a "resting voltage" reading of the battery after it's been sitting for several hours, preferably overnight. To do this properly, you want to open your hood the night before so the battery is exposed and you can get to it without opening doors which will activate electrical components. If the resting voltage is in the neighborhood of 12.7 V or better, you are fully charged and I'd guess your battery is good. If it is below 12.4 V, I think your battery is on its last legs. Anything in between is grounds for a load test. - Jack |
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Although since your truck is an 05 and the battery MIGHT be weak, IMHO I don't think thats the problem in this case. Ever since I have started this thread and changed levels my truck has always said check gauges. Now mines an 06 with the original battery and I thought it could be a bad battery so I swapped in the battery out of my friends 08 and went to program and bamm the same thing happened. I think Sburn's post got the problem just right. Because the oil pressure and the coolant temp gauge are the two not working (in my case) and I assume since it will not give a reading to the gauges during programming the truck thinks one of them are broke. |
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That's what I thought with mine also but I had a cat involved! Haha only had 28K on that battery. Maybe it makes a difference if they are DD or garage queens. Lars |
My 05' F150 FX4 will also display the "check gauges" during any programming and this display will remain until the PCM has been fully re-written. Then all is well. I agree with the idea that the gauges are not talking to each other during the programing. I have the edge, not gryphon.
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