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Old Thu, January 20th, 2011, 09:15 PM
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Got a strange problem, and after tons of searching I found it to have happened to a few other people. The posts always ended with out a solution though.

Here's what I have.
2001 F150 5.4
Edge Evolution.

Truck runs fine on canned 0-1-2-3 settings.
The problem occurs when I try to change the trans settings in the custom options. It happens with all three levels.

I am just looking to raise up the WOT shift points, firm them up, and raise the standard shift points as it shifts too early.
When ever I do that, the truck will run rich, black smoke, barely idles (if it does), and even threw a code. (TPS inconsistant with MAF ?).
When this happens, the Engine Load readout stays around 80%,doesn't change at all.

On my display, running my normal #2 tune, with the tire ratio and gear ratio corrected, I have also noticed strange things happening.

The current gear in the upper right corner will read 1-2-3-4. No P-N-R, even when in P-N or Reverse,it just shows 1. Also no Tq converter lock is ever shown, even when locked up on the highway.

With the current gear in the upper left corner, it reads 1 locked, In park. Then 2-3-4 unlocked.

Depending on where I have the engine load% readout, it will read the same number as what I have next to it,whether it RPM or voltage,etc.

I started talking with Edge a few weeks ago, gave them the info and up-loaded my programmer for them. Still no information on what to do next.

Here are 2 pictures of the display taken back to back. I simply moved paramaters around. The truck was in PARK at the time.



I'm at the point now where I'm ready to box it up and send it back.

Any ideas on what to do next??

Steve
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Old Thu, January 20th, 2011, 11:35 PM
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No offense to Edge, they sell a good product but don't service worth a . My suggestion is box it up and sent it to PHP. Have the "mad doctor" look at it and see if he can help. Like I said, it is a great product but there seems to be an error in the codes when you change transmission settings. What else have you done to your truck? Maybe send it back for a refund and buy a graphon from PHP. Same product but WAY better service. Hope this helps.....
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Before you box it up have you tried to update it online?
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Old Thu, January 20th, 2011, 11:59 PM
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Great reply longshot270! I was coming back to ask that and you already suggested that.
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Also Skizriz, can you provide some of the threads you found? I can't seem to find any and I dont know what search terms you used.

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Great reply longshot270! I was coming back to ask that and you already suggested that.
Yeah, computers make random errors sometimes. Sometimes you wont know but other times you find out the hard way.
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Old Fri, January 21st, 2011, 05:25 PM
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Tried updating it with the Fusion. It says no updates available. I did upload it through Fusion for Edge to figure out what's wrong.

I'd like a Gryphon, but not available for my year truck (with Evo.). Its a 2001.
Besides, being a stock truck, I am just looking to wake the transmission up a little. The shifting is my only complaint about the truck, and has been from day one.

Only thing done to truck is a K-N drop in filter, and Thrush muffler. Never had a code, still don't with canned tunes, only when I adjust the shift points and/or shift firmness.

I called Edge again yesterday and left a message. Haven't heard back from them yet.
May be time to box it up and send it back to where I bought it from.

Here's a link to others with the same problem.
help with edge evo - F150online Forums
http://forum.gopowerhungry.com/1997-...unes-edge.html
http://www.f150online.com/forums/chi...-question.html
http://www.f150online.com/forums/chi...ough-idle.html

FWIW...I cleaned my MAF sensor about a month ago.

I just don't know whether it's the Evo, the truck, or me that is the problem.

Thanks for the help, it's more than I seem to be recieving from Edge.

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