Power Hungry Performance Forum  

Go Back   Power Hungry Performance Forum > Power Hungry Performance Product Information > Minotaur Automotive Tuning Software

Minotaur Automotive Tuning Software
Tune your own 7.3L Diesel! If you have a question or comment about Minotaur? Post it here.

Also, check out our Facebook group: Facebook - Minotaur Tuners


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old Thu, January 28th, 2010, 11:12 PM
907DAVE's Avatar
907DAVE 907DAVE is offline
BROKE
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,340
907DAVE will become famous soon enough
Default Smoke Control

Is it just a function of the MFD map?

Or is it the Low Boost Fueling map, PW, etc.?

What is the most efficient way to reduce smoke?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old Thu, January 28th, 2010, 11:33 PM
cleatus12r's Avatar
cleatus12r cleatus12r is offline
F Your Yankee Blue Jeans
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Somewhere in Montana
Posts: 2,658
cleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to all
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 907dave View Post
Is it just a function of the MFD map?

Or is it the Low Boost Fueling map, PW, etc.?

What is the most efficient way to reduce smoke? Leave it stock.
Poor (or less than highly efficient) combustion efficiency and the amount of fuel per amount of air are big contributors.

If your program is designed to give you a certain PW at a certain RPM/APP/ICP (obviously there is no map for this, but it all comes out in the wash ) then one fix is to command less PW (multiplier) at that certain RPM/APP/ICP.

Increasing ICP will result in less commanded PW (unless the PW map has been changed...not the PW multiplier map) because the PCM will account for a mass fuel desired difference with the higher ICP and automatically lower the PW.

The low boost fuel maps are a MFD limit. They limit the actual MFD desired to whatever the value is for a given MAP vs. RPM. If you were to lower the low boost fuel to say, "30" across the board, you'd get a total MFD of 30 and have a gutless pig.

Setting the LBF map to an acceptable range while driving like a normal person (it would take some trial and error) and only allowing higher MFD under really high boost conditions would help.

__________________
Tuning, flashing, burning chips, and repairing all aspects of 7.3L Powerstrokes.
SEVEN 7.3L-powered vehicles in the driveway. Two didn't come that way from the factory!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old Thu, January 28th, 2010, 11:51 PM
907DAVE's Avatar
907DAVE 907DAVE is offline
BROKE
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,340
907DAVE will become famous soon enough
Default

<---- thats a good one, thats what I am like everytime I think about this stuff.


If you use the PW Multiplier, it appears you can only reduce PW about 1ms at operating temps. Is that enough?

Or is that value not MS?

More like PW X 1.5 or whatever?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old Thu, January 28th, 2010, 11:58 PM
cleatus12r's Avatar
cleatus12r cleatus12r is offline
F Your Yankee Blue Jeans
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Somewhere in Montana
Posts: 2,658
cleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to all
Default

It's a multiplier.

It "basically" takes the desired PW for a given ICP/MFD (in the pulse width map) and multiplies it by the value in the multiplier.

So by all rights, you can either jack up the values in the straight pulse width map to reflect what you want the PW to be for a given MFD/ICP that is not based on EOT so you can really churn out the powah upon first startup on a -10F day........

OR

You can calculate (within fairly close reason) what the actual PW will be if you do some math. The PW multiplier map allows injection pulse width changes based on EOT instead of just allowing a ton of fuel while the engine is cold.
__________________
Tuning, flashing, burning chips, and repairing all aspects of 7.3L Powerstrokes.
SEVEN 7.3L-powered vehicles in the driveway. Two didn't come that way from the factory!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old Fri, January 29th, 2010, 12:04 AM
907DAVE's Avatar
907DAVE 907DAVE is offline
BROKE
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,340
907DAVE will become famous soon enough
Default

So to simplify things a guy could change the PW map to get desired results on a warm engine, then do a little math and apply those changes to the multiplier map? Or would it be just as easy to do this with the multiplier?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old Fri, January 29th, 2010, 12:09 AM
cleatus12r's Avatar
cleatus12r cleatus12r is offline
F Your Yankee Blue Jeans
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Somewhere in Montana
Posts: 2,658
cleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to allcleatus12r is a name known to all
Default

You know, for aftermarket injectors that flow significantly different from stock (especially those with larger nozzles) that's probably the direction I would take. Either that or just leave the multiplier map alone and just drive normal until the engine is warm. The base PW map should be changed anyway for large injectors just to get the idle right.
__________________
Tuning, flashing, burning chips, and repairing all aspects of 7.3L Powerstrokes.
SEVEN 7.3L-powered vehicles in the driveway. Two didn't come that way from the factory!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:29 AM.


All Contents Copyright 2008-2024, Power Hungry Performance