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[Jackpine]

Sounds to me like you should get an 87 performance tune instead of an 87 tow. What I'd do is put the 87 performance on Level 1, Leave Level 2 alone as the canned tow tune and replace Level 3 with your 93 performance tune.

- Jack

[not you]

say what? i guessing on each tune there is settings?

[Jackpine]

Originally Posted by not you

say what? i guessing on each tune there is settings?

There are, but most of them are done by Bill. This is what a "custom" tune is all about. It's not you making "trial and error" inputs that might cause your engine to blow up, or your transmission to fall apart.

- Jack

[not you]

yes thats what i do not want to happen . groovy chick said they might ship on friday(yesterday) so what can i do now? wait to get it and wait in line for custom tunes? can i still use it ? will it make a difference with the mpg and spining some tires or not do anything and hurt the truck and we dont want that ( i would not want totell the wife that i just screwed the brand new truck up ) thanks with the feed back and be prepared for more shawn

[Jackpine]

OK, I THINK you are asking questions about the "Custom Options" feature of the Gryphon/Edge. If you're just getting a new Gryphon, it will come preloaded with Bill's "canned" tunes. These are better than Edges' but he can customize them for your truck and driving goals still more with true custom tunes. The three tunes are 1. 87 Tranny only, 2. 87 tow, and 3. 93 Performance.

If your tank is FILLED with 93 octane, you can choose this tune. If not, I'd try the 87 Tow tune. The first time you set a tune, skip the Custom Options menu completely. This lets the Gryphon build some files it needs.

Drive the truck around and find out what the tune has done for you.

Then, if you want to make small adjustments, you can reenter the tune, but this time choose the Custom Options menu. Before you do this, read through the Q and A about this menu here: http://dygytalworld.ehost-services13...ead.php?t=1101 Read through this several times - make sure you understand it. It's VERY easy to misunderstand what you're doing and screw things up.

I'd also be very reluctant to set any WOT shift above 5100 and don't move the max rpm above 5500, to avoid transmission damage. I'd also probably not increase shift firmness much above +10.

- Jack

[not you]

sorry for the confusion. i think your saying what i have now will be fine to run and if there is something i need to change i can do it myself but before this happens run it around town and it will save files and before i change anything i will look at Q A forum to understand my changes trust me when i say this there will be no changing anything until i send a lot of threads out there another Q sometimes i run 89 octane in the truck and it runs a little better than 87 but the gas mileage is real bad so with the 93 setting i can run 93 and get better mpg and better responce thanks for the info and the tring to understand my blabbin on and on shawn

[Jackpine]

Originally Posted by not you

sorry for the confusion. i think your saying what i have now will be fine to run and if there is something i need to change i can do it myself but before this happens run it around town and it will save files and before i change anything i will look at Q A forum to understand my changes trust me when i say this there will be no changing anything until i send a lot of threads out there another Q sometimes i run 89 octane in the truck and it runs a little better than 87 but the gas mileage is real bad so with the 93 setting i can run 93 and get better mpg and better responce thanks for the info and the tring to understand my blabbin on and on shawn

Uh, yea (I guess). Could you please write in sentences? This isn't a cell phone text message medium.

And, I just realized you asked a question at the end. Other people have reported better gas mileage and power using 93 octane and the corresponding tune. I've never tried it. I got better mileage and response just using the 87 tune.

If you use 89 octane in an 87 tune, you should be able to advance your timing by 1.0 degree in the Custom Options, and that should improve both power and mileage.

- Jack

[Circuit]

Originally Posted by JackandJanet

Sounds to me like you should get an 87 performance tune instead of an 87 tow. What I'd do is put the 87 performance on Level 1, Leave Level 2 alone as the canned tow tune and replace Level 3 with your 93 performance tune.

- Jack

That is exactly what I did.
I did so much research on programmers now I can't wait to get it!

In my '04 SCAB 6.5' bed with a 4.6 doing the calculation myself as said above I get 17-18 now driving medium (I am not too hard but not slow either). I get 1000 kms per tank. I do have the big tank.

Our F-150's are full size trucks. My daily driver gets 4-6 mpg. It's a tri-axle dump truck with a pup hauling 37 tons.