A few questions

[cleatus12r]

Originally Posted by Power Hungry

I think the thing that bothers me is that PMT1 was only out a few weeks before PMT2 became the current release. I mean really, how many PMT1 labeled PCMs has anyone actually seen?

I have one....I lucked out on ebay and got it for $75. I have .......other......plans for it I have to take the board out, glue the J3 traces down, and retin the contacts because the previous owner decided to rub a little too much when taking the epoxy off of the terminals. And for whatever reason, there was some arcing going on between two of the terminals when they crossed at some point :omg:. It still works though and chips work fine in it.


As far as the PMT1 and PMT2 (which my truck is originally) differences go, my wife (who is a GREAT test subject for my work because she's brutally honest) says that stock for stock (nothing programmed or in the J3 port), the PMT1 feels stronger than the PMT2....perceivably different. Why? Who knows? I don't feel a difference but she knows when I've changed the PCM out. Don't get me wrong, stock for stock, the truck is still a gutless turd and programming always helps. However, she finds the PMT1 more tolerable if she has to drive without tuning.

The BIGGEST thing I notice is the forced 4-3 shift and TCC strategy. Neither my wife or I ever floorboard the truck so I don't care about WOT lockup...but the 4-3 shift (and subsequent TCC unlock/lock strategy) seals the deal for me...the more responsive APP does it for her.

[Power Hungry]

I agree with both you and the wife. The PMT1 always felt stronger to me, even if only a a little bit. Of course, that may be entire because of the transmission strategy better handling the power from the engine and putting it to the ground.

The reason we went to PMT1 was specifically because of the shift strategies, especially the 4-3 and T/C shifts. This is also the reason we created the VDH/PMT, MNM/PMT, and XLE/PMT hybrid files. They just shift so much better than the original strategies.

In the end, it's whatever makes you happy.

[cleatus12r]

Don't get me started on those lovely strategies that won't even lock the torque converter in 2nd or 3rd gear no matter the load then immediately lock it when the 3-4 shift occurs. Those will make you wonder what the :censored3: those programmers were smoking :1moon: when they came up with that :censored3:.

[Big Bore]

I am having major problems with the PMT1 strategy here in the CO mountains. Downshifting requires way too much pedal at way too low of speeds, causing lag, smoke, and then sudden acceleration when it does downshift. I would go so far as to say I hate it. It does not keep the truck in the powerband, instead it is constantly lugging around. So does the Minotaur software allow shift points to be adjusted using RPM instead of road speed?

[cleatus12r]

No. The functions are set up for APP vs. road speed.

But it's nothing more than a little math to figure out road speed vs. RPM...with a little bit of road testing in between. Also, it's not difficult at all to keep the TC from locking in 2nd or 3rd gear.

Big Bore, you've got a chip burner, right? If so, I can send you an MRT2 file...it's a stock power level, but the shifting/TC strategy absolutely sucks! It's NOTHING like PMT1 and WILL NOT lock the TC in 2nd or 3rd so it might be just what you're looking for. I can email it to you and you can burn it right to your chip.

Different strokes for different folks!

PM me your email address if you're interested.

[Big Bore]

Originally Posted by cleatus12r

No. The functions are set up for APP vs. road speed.

But it's nothing more than a little math to figure out road speed vs. RPM...with a little bit of road testing in between. Also, it's not difficult at all to keep the TC from locking in 2nd or 3rd gear.

Big Bore, you've got a chip burner, right? If so, I can send you an MRT2 file...it's a stock power level, but the shifting/TC strategy absolutely sucks! It's NOTHING like PMT1 and WILL NOT lock the TC in 2nd or 3rd so it might be just what you're looking for. I can email it to you and you can burn it right to your chip.

Different strokes for different folks!

PM me your email address if you're interested.

Negative, no burner. I'm seriously considering the Minotaur software.

I cant imagine something that sucks worse than PMT1 right now. However, having the TC locked in 2nd and 3rd really sucks driving in hilly country where speeds vary constantly. I suppose if the actual shift points are moved up then perhaps it wont be as bad, but I really think delaying the TC lockup till 3rd is the answer. It is possible cutting the low end fuel may solve some of my problems also. I am working with the original tuner to come up with something that will work, but I have little faith in a satisfactory solution at this point.

Not being able to set shift points by RPM is a little disappointing to me, as that seems more relevant than road speed.

[cleatus12r]

Originally Posted by Big Bore

Negative, no burner. I'm seriously considering the Minotaur software.

I cant imagine something that sucks worse than PMT1 right now. Actually, it's better for YOU in the fact that the TC doesn't lock at all in 2nd......but then again, it doesn't lock in 3rd either.However, having the TC locked in 2nd and 3rd really sucks driving in hilly country where speeds vary constantly. I can appreciate that, as I share your pain...in most situations. It sure helps with transmission fluid temperature having it locked though.I suppose if the actual shift points are moved up then perhaps it wont be as bad, but I really think delaying the TC lockup till 3rd is the answer. That would definitely make your life a lot better!!It is possible cutting the low end fuel may solve some of my problems also. I am working with the original tuner to come up with something that will work, but I have little faith in a satisfactory solution at this point.

Not being able to set shift points by RPM is a little disappointing to me, as that seems more relevant than road speed. The problem with that is the RPM varies significantly because of the torque converter slippage itself. 35 MPH with no load might equal 2000 RPM and on the other hand loaded can be 3000 RPM. If your TC was commanded to lock at 2700 RPM, it would lock at 2700 RPM just because you were pulling a load....same road speed. I guess to me, APP makes more sense than RPM. APP is a much better indicator of load than RPM vs. speed.

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