Pro's & Con's Gryphon vs. Phoenix + Edge Insight

[Jackpine]

Instead of the Edge Insight - You might want to look into this: UltraGauge Automotive Information Center and OBDII Scan Tool

I don't know if it will work in your truck, but at the price they are quoting, and for what it can do, I'd sure find out.

Then, the Phoenix chip is a VERY good choice for your truck to get better performance. And yes, it does magical transformation on the ECM that works "on the fly" and other neat things that the Gryphon can't do. I think it is way cheaper, too.

- Jack

[wood4heat]

Originally Posted by JackandJanet

Instead of the Edge Insight - You might want to look into this: UltraGauge Automotive Information Center and OBDII Scan Tool

- Jack

Interested... Looking at the web page I wonder if it's aimed more at gas vehicles. It does list the 7.3 but doesn't show EGT's boost or trans temp as options. For that price I'll definitely give them a call to verify though. I'll post back with anything I learn!

[wood4heat]

Their website doesn't list any contact info but I did look at the list of gauges offered. It appears to be all 75 that they claim and does not show the big three us diesel guys are interested in. (EGT's, trans temp, or boost) Unless anyone knows more about them I guess I'll be sticking with the insight.

[ticopowell]

correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt an EGT guage and a boost guage require a seperate sensor? I know they should all have a trans temp sensor, but the others I thought were all aftermarket stuff... so the insight might need an extra sensor to monitor that too... thanks for the info

[wood4heat]

You have to buy the sensor for EGT's ($100-$130) but boost along with everything else can be read from the OBD port.

Unfortunately the boost function may not be accurate. I guess aftermarket programming increases boost then hides it from the ecm to keep it from defueling. Since the insight reads directly from the ecm it only sees what the programming shows it.

Since I'm not shooting for the stars power wise I'm not worried if the boost is off. I figure accurate or not I'll at least have a baseline to watch and if that changes I'll know something is up.

[ticopowell]

Cool thanks! and yeah I thought as much. I'm sure it couldn't hurt to get a proper guage eventually...

[wood4heat]

There are two EGT sensors from edge. One is expandable and allows additional sensors to be daisy chained to it. I'm not sure what all is available but it would be cool if they offered a boost sensor directly off the turbo.