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"Pacific Ethanol Inc. is running on fumes.

In a Securities and Exchange Commission filing, the Sacramento-based company warned it could run out of operating cash by the end of the month, unless it finds additional capital and restructures its existing debt.

With little profit in making and selling ethanol, it has already shut down three of its four ethanol fuel plants -- including a $140 million facility opened last fall in Stockton.

It is in default on more than $260 million in loans, but the company's creditors have agreed to give it until April 30 to try to restructure its debt, find additional sources of financing or both."


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Great! That's one business I'd like to see fail!

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Old Fri, April 3rd, 2009, 10:57 AM
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as for the cost of E85, I just got diesel a couple days ago for $1.48 a gallon. the E85 at that same station was $1.70 and reg gas was $1.72...
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as for the cost of E85, I just got diesel a couple days ago for $1.48 a gallon. the E85 at that same station was $1.70 and reg gas was $1.72...
Yea there is hardley any difference in the price of e85 here, but we only have one station Diesel is still right at 2.00+ here
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I think that this got off the subject just a little bit. Everyone has there own opinion on everything, and I am glad to live in a country where I can voice that opinion. Good people have died to give me that right, and I am very greatful to them and their families. Now back to my original post. Is there an E-85 tune or not? I guess I am going with no since I haven't heard anything one way or another.
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I think you are gonna have to wait for Bill to answer that. My guess is that it would need to be a custom tune... if he has not already written some E85 tunes then it would probably require some live tuning. Though as you can make some significant changes using E85 esp to the timing due the the higher Octane ratings I am sure the net result would be much better than running the stock (factory) program that is still programmed for regular gas
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I think you are gonna have to wait for Bill to answer that. My guess is that it would need to be a custom tune... if he has not already written some E85 tunes then it would probably require some live tuning. Though as you can make some significant changes using E85 esp to the timing due the the higher Octane ratings I am sure the net result would be much better than running the stock (factory) program that is still programmed for regular gas
I'm going to respectfully insert a note here to remind everyone. Octane rating is NOT a measure of power! Higher octane means the fuel is more resistant to ignition under extremes of temperature and pressure (pre-ignition) and, it actually burns "slower" - does not "explode".

Southpaw, I was not taking anything away from your absolutely correct post. I just get "twitchy" when I hear anything about hi-octane fuel.

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