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I have a ECM that is out of a 2005 F-250 6.0 auto. transmission that sounds to be the same basic truck as mine. The tag # on this module is 5C3A-12A650-KYC. The ECM module in my truck has a tag # of 5C3A-12A650-KNB and has been updated to the VXCF9N4 strategy. I purchased a Gryphon CTS that I'm currently running the canned tunes until I can round up the money for custom tunes and rollbacks.
My questions are: 1- If I return my truck back to stock. Can I swap this ECM for my present ECM and check to see what strategy it is programmed with ? 2- Will I be able use the Gryphon CTS to check the strategy ? 3- If it is a more desirable strategy to run, will I be able to use the Gryphon CTS and this strategy in the ECM become my new stock configuration and saved on the Gryphon ? From the research I have done. These 2 ECM tag #are compatible. If you have any other information. Please let me know. I'm still a newbie and trying to learn as much as I can. Thanks in advance.
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2005 F-250 SC 4X4 6.0 PSD /AT MODS: PHP FICM with Hybrid Programming, Sinister EGR Cooler Delete,AIRAID CAI,Zoodad Mod, Coolant Filter,4" Turbo Back Exhaust, Hi-Idle Mod, Updated Fuel Pressure Regulator Spring,Banjo Bolt Mod., Gryphon CTS & 5 Custom PHP Tunes SCT & 4 Custom Tunes |
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19 F-350 6.7 Auto 16 F-350 6.7 Auto 05 Excursion 6.0, Auto, PHP Atlas 40 FICM, ARP Studs VXBC6(truck PCM) 00 F-350 7.3, 12 Speed, PHP Gryphon, PHP hydra, DAC3 95 F-Superduty 7.3 DI, Auto, Mechanics Truck 94 F-Superduty 7.3 DI, 5 speed, Flatbed |
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Put in other ECM
Thanks for the reply Jeremy. Yours answers were the one's that I had thought were correct, but I was just wanting to get a more educated opinion.
I came home today from work and read your reply and decided to swap them around. The 2nd ECM has the following hex codes: ECM: VXCF4D3 TCM: TQCJO2D I started the truck and it seems to run fine. I still have have all the PIDS available that I had with the 1st ECM and so far it has not thrown any codes. I checked to see if any appeared. I'm getting ready to take it for a test drive to see if it acts different and shifts okay. Is there a way of finding out by the hex codes what the differences are ? I believe I have read that the last two digits have to do with those. The 1st ECM has the following hex codes : ECM: VXCF9N4 TCM: TQCI1NA If there are differences that would affect the truck's operation, is it possible to have them corrected with custom tunes ? Yes my '05 does have the MAF sensor and it is one of the PID's I can choose and it does give readings when selected as a PID. Hadn't looked to see if ABS was showing on dash. Hopefully will know more after the test drive.
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2005 F-250 SC 4X4 6.0 PSD /AT MODS: PHP FICM with Hybrid Programming, Sinister EGR Cooler Delete,AIRAID CAI,Zoodad Mod, Coolant Filter,4" Turbo Back Exhaust, Hi-Idle Mod, Updated Fuel Pressure Regulator Spring,Banjo Bolt Mod., Gryphon CTS & 5 Custom PHP Tunes SCT & 4 Custom Tunes |
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![]() ![]() You won't see the ABS light turn on, but some XL trucks had 2 wheel ABS vs 4 wheel ABS. You may notice a different feel to the brake pedal when you switch to the other PCM if it is a 2 wheel ABS model. Do you get a CEL for your EGR delete? With the old PCM vs the new? Bill could tell us what the difference is between the "N4" vs the "D3", I don't have access to that information. Sorry. |
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I didn't notice a difference in the feel of the brakes. But on my test drive I was concentrating more on how the engine performance felt and the shifting of the transmission. I was also watching EGT,ECT,EOT, and TFT to be sure that there wasn't any unexpected increases.
I haven't gotten any codes at all since my EGR Delete. I left my EGR Valve in place. Neither ECM so far has given me any codes. I plan on driving it for a week or so on the stock level to see if anything arises before I attempt to run it on a canned tune. Would the information Bill has access to be able to tell if there is a difference as far as the ABS being 2 wheel or 4 wheel on the original ECM compared to the 2nd ECM ? I greatly appreciate all your help. Sorry if I seem to be asking a lot of questions, but I'm trying to become as informed as I can.
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2005 F-250 SC 4X4 6.0 PSD /AT MODS: PHP FICM with Hybrid Programming, Sinister EGR Cooler Delete,AIRAID CAI,Zoodad Mod, Coolant Filter,4" Turbo Back Exhaust, Hi-Idle Mod, Updated Fuel Pressure Regulator Spring,Banjo Bolt Mod., Gryphon CTS & 5 Custom PHP Tunes SCT & 4 Custom Tunes |
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Phone Call from Bill with Answers
I got a phone call from Bill in response to an email I sent asking the differences and he told me that I had gotten the strategy with very minor differences to the strategy that he would have recommended to rollback to if I had ordered a ECM rollback. He also answered a few of my other questions.
The phone call was unexpected, but greatly appreciated. I had figured he would just send me an email reply in the next few days when he could squeeze it in. I will definitely talk with him again about getting the FICM reprogrammed and the custom tunes I'm interested in getting. Thanks Again Bill if you happen to read this.
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2005 F-250 SC 4X4 6.0 PSD /AT MODS: PHP FICM with Hybrid Programming, Sinister EGR Cooler Delete,AIRAID CAI,Zoodad Mod, Coolant Filter,4" Turbo Back Exhaust, Hi-Idle Mod, Updated Fuel Pressure Regulator Spring,Banjo Bolt Mod., Gryphon CTS & 5 Custom PHP Tunes SCT & 4 Custom Tunes |
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