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4.2L, 4.6L and 5.4L equipped F-150s and Mark-LTs.


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Old Wed, February 11th, 2009, 04:23 PM
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I have discussed this with Bill a couple of times and he said that he dynoed this type of mod several years ago when he was working up the calibrations for the EDGE Evo tunes. I believe he said that he also tried it with the snorkel removed just breathing air from the engine bay and it showed about the same gains. Personally, I like the idea of going back to the fender and taking cooler air from the stock location since cooler air is more dense and makes more power. Also that location is less likely to ingest any water unless you manage to submarine the nose of the truck, in which case the last thing you will be worried about is where your intake air is coming from.
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I've seen flex metal tubing that looks pretty similar to what AgentOrange used in Ace Hardware and Home Depot. He said it required NO fender modification. I've seen flex PVC online in pool supply sources, but I have yet to find it in a "brick and mortar" store. Plumbing wholesale might be a good source, Lars.

SinCity, I don't think I understand what you are proposing. I doubt any of the couplers I've seen are long enough to get into the outer fender well, and, It's not clear to me how you are cutting it?

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Well, I was thinking about a setup like MArk has on his then using a regular coupler like the 1st pic and then using a razor knife to cut a lip in in it so it seats. Or using something like the second pic on the bottom if I can find the right piece.

I am using my old intake and trying to make one for my neighbor who cannot use his hands very well (stroke). He does not want to cut or hurt his truck so I am using mine to make it and try and find a way so I dont alter his truck other than the intake from mine. You guys have given me a ton of ideas.
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Old Tue, February 10th, 2009, 05:35 PM
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OK, take pictures of what you come up with!

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Old Tue, February 10th, 2009, 06:56 PM
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So, looking back at the pictures you posted, the downspout connector compresses enough to get in, and through both fender holes so it gets the air from the original source? I have to say I never thought of looking for a downspout connector (and I don't know that I've ever noticed something like that here).

Of course, it may not be necessary to get the air from that original source, but, as I said in an earlier post, here in the Arizona summers, I want to avoid as much heat as possible.

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Jack,

The smaller end of the downspout connector fits into the fender hole almost perfectly. Compressing the flex section while tightening the worm clamp insures that there is light pressure keeping the downspout connector fully seated in the fender hole. This also prevents it from making noise or vibrating. The PVC downspout connector helps prevent transmitting noise or vibration into the fender structure, similar to the rubber doughnut gasket on the stock snorkel tip.
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Old Tue, February 10th, 2009, 07:58 PM
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Thank you sir! Nice post!

Now I have to visit Lowes and Home Depot and see if I can find one of these downspout thingys.

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Jack,

I checked the web sites for both stores and Lowe's has them on the web site but Home Depot does not. Home Depot may carry them but I can't be certain since they are not on their web site. You may also be able to find a similar item at a local plumbing supply house. Anyway, here is the Lowe's link:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...DSC&lpage=none

I tried to adhere to the KISS principle during the whole development process for this mod.
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Thank you David.

The link clarifies things nicely and now I know what I'm looking for. I like the KISS principle too, when I can see how to make it work.

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Pictures are now up in my post #71 of this thread. Also in my gallery.
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