Time for another Gryphon

[Rheatherly]

OK here goes, I have sold my F150 and now have a 2005 F350 SWB 6.0l 6 speed manual. It's all stock except a K&N intake and all new injectors from what I can tell. I have now sold the F150 so I can start getting this truck where I want it. I do not pull sleds or race this truck, it's a daily driver that pulls my bass boat, atvs and camper. It will normally not pull over 10,000lbs. I do not have the funds (or time) right now to stud the heads, I am doing an EGR delete kit from Sinister and may do a new oil cooler. What tunes would work well on this truck from PHP? Also, if I order the Gryphon it comes with the EGT probe, but the CS and CTS does not correct?

Sorry for the long post, trying to make sure I get what I need!

[Jeremy]

If it was me, and I had a six speed, I'd just get the ficm programmer. Yes you are limited to the mono chrome gryphon, but with your set up you dont require any trans tuning, so why not? With your limited funds, it would be the most bang for the buck. Others may disagree.

my $.02
Jeremy

[Rheatherly]

OK, so I guess I need to look on the forums for the difference between a normal programer and a ficm programer.:confused:

[Rheatherly]

OK, now I am more confused than when I started! So if I order the $400 FICM tuner I do not need to run another ECM tuner correct? This truck came with a SuperChips flashpaq, but I don't need to run both correct? :help:

[Enrique]

the ficm programmer has nothing to do with ecm tuner, it only programes the ficm. as long as your superchips flashpack is'nt already reprograming the ficm then you should be safe to use both at the same time. some programers/tuners as i understand it should not be used in conjuction with the ficm programer, and i'm sure someone on this forum could tell you if you can stack yours safely or not.

[Enrique]

oh, and no you do not have to run any other programmer with ficm programmer. you can run ficm programmer by itself if you want to.

[Rheatherly]

What kind of gains are being seen by this programming? Fuel usage, power improvements etc? I would rather have one programmer instead of having to use two so if I can get good improvements with this I will go that route instead of a custom tuned CS. Thanks for the help guys!

[Jeremy]

The ficm programer offers you:

Mileage tune:
40hp Atlas tune:
80hp Atlas tune:
100hp Hurcules:

If you dont have head studs, the 100 hp tune is not recommended.

You can use the superchips tuner aswell if you want to, it should be able to remove the speed limiter, but thats the only advantage it will have in a six speed truck over the FICM programmer. IMO

[Rheatherly]

What kind of fuel mileage are you seeing with this programmer? Also, does it come with the EGT probe?

[Enrique]

I'm expecting mine to arrive anyday now. Once i get it i am going to spend a day doing fuel milage tests, with and without the hypertech programmer.

[Rheatherly]

:2thumbs: Keep me in the loop! My finger is on the trigger to order the it, I just don't want to spend $400 and it not be what I need.

[Enrique]

You bet, will do. Heading out of town for work, should be back by sunday. If it arrived should have some results posted monday night. Its been at canadien customs since the 22 just got released today! I guess they wanted to make sure i wasnt going to terrorize the country with my php programmer:shrug:

[Rheatherly]

I really hope it works like I think it will. Only remaining questions are fuel consumption, does it come with the monitor probe and can it turn off the CEL for the EGR delete.

[Jeremy]

No egt probe, you have to buy that. And no on the CEL that is a PCM function. You have to get your PCM programed to ignore that CEL or get a regular tuner with custom tunes that removes the CEL for EGR delete.

I'm sorry, I didnt see that you had your EGR deleted.

[Rheatherly]

It's not deleted yet, I just ordered the delete kit. I may get it and if it throws a code I can plug the EGR back in and zip tie it out of the way. Would that stop the truck from throwing the code?

[Jeremy]

Does your 05 have a MAF sensor? If it doesnt you may not have to worry about a CEL for EGR flow if you leave the EGR valve plugged in.

[Rheatherly]

Does your 05 have a MAF sensor? If it doesnt you may not have to worry about a CEL for EGR flow if you leave the EGR valve plugged in.

I have no idea if it does or not. How can I tell?:shrug:

[Jeremy]

If you do, there is a sensor inbetween the air filter and and the turbo inlet. If you dont, you'll have the wires for the sensor and the plug that goes to it, but its plugged into a dummy plug instead of the maf sensor. About a 2" square sensor is visible if you have a MAF.

[Rheatherly]

If I do is there a work around for it? Either a dummy plug or leaving the EGR plugged in but moved out of the way?

[Jeremy]

Sorry, i dont understand your question..

[Lilpooh]

What he wants to know is, if he does have a functioning MAF, is there a way to trick the PCM into thinking that the EGR has not been tampered with.

The answer is no, there is no way to trick it without a custom tune or modified stock tune to stop the ECM setting off a EGR code.

[Rheatherly]

If this truck has a MAF sensor, other than a custom tune is there a way to avoid the CEL coming on?

[Lilpooh]

No, you will need a custom tune or a modified stock tune.

[Rheatherly]

I may just get a Gryphon CS for now, get the FICM Atlas 40 later as funds replenish.

[Lowenbrau]

I would start out with the studs. . . Any significant change to horsepower is going to put you on the fast track to head studs anyhow. . . All the damage they cause, is the expensive part. Assuming you running the 6.0L. . . .