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Old Wed, April 15th, 2009, 08:50 PM
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I love it here...I learn stuff evey day I swear.

With the SCT tuners it locks to a specific vehicle and has to be unlocked,

This land of Edge/Gryphon is new to me.

I like to learn all aspects though.

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Cannes tunes or custom tunes it will still "marry" to the vehicle. Well, at least the SCTtuners do. Otherwise...think about it, you could buy one tuner and run programs on an unlimited amount trucks.

But as the others suggested...Bill will know the real deal.
From what I've read in other adds, posts and/or forums is that a lot of the hand helds can be "tried out" on from 1-5 vehicles before they lock or marry to a specific vehicle. Then to get it unlocked seems to be an act of God by some of those other companies.

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From what I've read in other adds, posts and/or forums is that a lot of the hand helds can be "tried out" on from 1-5 vehicles before they lock or marry to a specific vehicle. Then to get it unlocked seems to be an act of God by some of those other companies.

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Wonder how they manage the "try out" phase? (Well, I could actually see how it COULD be done, but it seems really "clunky").

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Wonder how they manage the "try out" phase? (Well, I could actually see how it COULD be done, but it seems really "clunky").

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The hand helds must have a subroutine counter program in them that every time a different pcm is recognized it counts off or maybe the hex code is used.
Once it acheives the threshold none of the "test" vehicles are locked out its just any new "test" vehicles.

Of course you need to put the "test" vehicle back to stock before switching to another.

Part of the reason I think that this was done is they didn't want them to be used as a scan tools. Which they can just like the gryphon.

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From what I've read in other adds, posts and/or forums is that a lot of the hand helds can be "tried out" on from 1-5 vehicles before they lock or marry to a specific vehicle. Then to get it unlocked seems to be an act of God by some of those other companies.

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Well...with the SCT stuff I have seen you have the 5 unlocks that can be done (as how people sell their stuff like the deal Jack got) and then you're right..god himself needs to help.
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Seems almost like 'planned" obsolescence, doesn't it? Or, as Lars said, they don't want you using it as a scan tool. (BTW, I just got a catalog from Harbor Freight and they're offering one for only $42.99 right now).

But really, since none of these programmers allow you to tune more than one vehicle at a time, seems kind of mean-spirited (and short sighted?) to throw up obstacles if you want to sell the thing and maybe you've used it to convince your Uncle Joe and Cousin Bob that they should have one too, by demonstrating it on their vehicles.

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Trademarks?
Copyrights?
Royalties?
Contracts?

Who knows?

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