No carbs here!

***cleatus12r*** · #1 Sat, August 29th, 2009, 07:00 PM

Here are a couple of updated pictures. Last night after work I finally installed the engine and transmission out of a 91 E-350 van into my 1973 F-100. I guess "installed" isn't the right word to use....more like, "got them set in the frame".

Now comes the tedious task of melding the old wiring harness with the new, making adapters for the headers (since the new engine has square exhaust ports and the old ones were oval), making a transmission crossmember, having a driveshaft built, and installing the frame-mounted fuel pump.

Once that work is out of the way, I need to re-dyno it so I can see how not-as-awesome this engine is compared to the last 460. This one will be a little more gutless but my entire motivation for this one comes from the E4OD and the multi-port FI. The previous engine was running an MSD 6A and the old analog Holley Pro-jection. I might add that the pro-jection is the cat's *** and I might just miss it.

We'll see.

***cleatus12r*** · #2 Sat, August 29th, 2009, 07:11 PM

Here's a dyno sheet of the previous TBI 460 and C6 transmission. It took a few runs to get the AFR dialed in, but we finally got it around 12.5:1 for the entire run.

Specs:

460
C6
8.5:1 compression
Stock cam (circa 1972)
Full length headers
Dual 3" exhaust into 2 Dynomax mufflers then merged into single 3"

In case you're wondering, the numbers listed on the left hand side of the dyno sheet were what my friends Eric and Phil and I guessed the rear wheel numbers would be before we started spinning the rollers. As you can see, I was way off.

F-127 · #3 Wed, September 16th, 2009, 11:38 PM

Interesting project Cody. 73-79 Fords are one of my favorite body styles. I'm guessing you'll eventually be running tuning from your Minotaur for the truck? How's the progress? Thumbs up from me for the project!

***cleatus12r*** · #4 Wed, September 16th, 2009, 11:57 PM

Dang honey-dos keep getting in the way of much progress right now.

Actually, as far as tuning goes, the only thing that I will need to fix is the shifting and torque converter scheduling. The stock PCM will be used, even with the forced induction. I plan on using a Dynojet PC-V to work the fuel and timing under boost.

Not much longer though. I'll be posting updates shortly.

Thanks for the kind words.

***Power Hungry*** · #5 Sun, September 20th, 2009, 02:11 AM

Cody,

Wouldn't you want to use a chip and live tune it???

***cleatus12r*** · #6 Sun, September 20th, 2009, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Power Hungry

Cody,

Wouldn't you want to use a chip and live tune it???

Probably not.
The only thing I might want to have the ability to change would be the shift strategies between a street tune and an all-out race tune (or how many "in-betweens" I might want).

The main problem encountered when using the stock PCM in this case is the lack
of a knock sensor. Not to mention the countless hours fiddling with A/F ratio when under boost (I'll need higher-flowing injectors anyway) and I really don't want to have to spend tons of time tuning it for detonation problems.

With the Dynojet PC5/Autotune combination wired in (more wiring....

), it will be as easy as installing a knock sensor, a wideband O2, and typing in what I want my A/F ratio to be under any load/RPM. After I drive it for a while, VOILA!! It's just "tuned" itself.

But in reality, who knows? I will be in touch if I need anything.
Thanks, Bill!