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4.2L, 4.6L and 5.4L equipped F-150s and Mark-LTs.


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Old Mon, October 4th, 2010, 12:31 AM
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04 f150 5.4 triton
CAI, and catback exhaust, with a 87 custom tuned gryphon
But since the 87 custom tune is not faster than the 93 canned tune, I am in the process of editing the 87 custom to my standards.
Right now I only advanced timing to 1.5, of course using 93 gas.
Tomorrow I will be advancing it to 2 and maybe mess with the spark

One question, if I am editing the custom tune, the other values of the custom tune will be the same correct?
I m asking this because when I have the 87 custom tune loaded, it idles at around 600-650.
But when I edit the custom tune, it is not at 500 idle
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Old Mon, October 4th, 2010, 10:02 AM
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Spark and timing advancement is the same thing. It is also something you need to pay attention to when you are making adjustments.

You could transfer settings but I personally wouldn't. You can't know for sure where Bill has your timing and stuff set. Instead, do what 88racing and I do. We have hard copies of changes we make that are on paper. When we make changes we can go through the list and know we didn't miss anything. These changes only apply to that tune though, a different tune will probably have different settings. Then you drive and tweak the tune (writing down your changes AS you make them) and when you are happy with it you have the hardcopy you can go back to.

As for the idle I'm not sure how you can fix it. Does the same for me and I've never been able to fix it even with the idle adjustment setting. I think that only makes the idle higher for underdrive pulley kits.
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Ah, Longshot, I would have chosen "W.A.G.", which is not exactly "educated", but it's generally the same thing (and usually with the same results).

You can include me in the camp of "writing" the settings down. I have an "insert" that sits in my Gryphon and now CTS manuals that shows what the "tuned" settings were (for those that apply) and what I have to set the TS and GR to if I muck with the Custom Options. And then finally, I also write down anything else I've changed, like the part throttle shift points and the torque converter lock/unlock points.

I bet the "reaction time IS included in the overall time. It would be easy to check though - just wait 5 sec from the time you get a green and then do the run.

Cajunboy - I'm not understanding something. Are you trying to get an idle of 500? That really sounds too low to me. I think the 600-650 is about ideal.

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No, my idle IS around 500. and I was trying to get to 600-650.
On the normal custom tune it was around 650
When I edited the custom tune. even tho I didn't mess with the idle, it dropped to 500. Which leads me to believe that if I am editing a tune, then it is like a blank slate, and I sure as hell hope that isn't true becuase of my CAI.
Anyways, I edited the idle last night to +40 and it ranges from 600-650 now.
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The fueling for the CAI will stay the same.

The idle has always been a funky setting for me.
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The fueling for the CAI will stay the same.

The idle has always been a funky setting for me.
Good to know, I think the last thing I need to adjust is the shift firmness. I gotta do some research on that. I get too much of a jerk from 1-2
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For the trans firmness I can't emphasize strong enough to read and understand what your settings do before you make them. The basics are in your gryphon manual. You also NEED to make small adjustments at a time. It is very easy to think your not making a large enough change.
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So would you have to send bill a special request to have the throttle delay solved. because ive noticed this to.
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04 f150 5.4 triton
CAI, and catback exhaust, with a 87 custom tuned gryphon
But since the 87 custom tune is not faster than the 93 canned tune, I am in the process of editing the 87 custom to my standards.
Right now I only advanced timing to 1.5, of course using 93 gas.
Tomorrow I will be advancing it to 2 and maybe mess with the spark

One question, if I am editing the custom tune, the other values of the custom tune will be the same correct?
I m asking this because when I have the 87 custom tune loaded, it idles at around 600-650.
But when I edit the custom tune, it is not at 500 idle
Good luck!
I would rather goto the master and have him change it then to do what you're doing.
Maybe there's a reason why he wrote your tune the way he did............
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