E85

***907DAVE*** · #1 Sat, January 23rd, 2010, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cleatus12r

A couple other prime examples of current "false economy" in the transportation world:

Hybrids (cost to manufacture as well as chemicals/processes for hazardous waste)
DPF on diesels (yeah, burn more fuel just so people don't see smoke...makes sense)

People who get wrapped up in protecting the planet never really see the big picture but seem to look for the atta-boys (smug) to justify their means.

VERY well said!

The EPA has admitted that the DPF was counterproductive, but was the best thing "at the time". Hopefully Urea injection will be the answer they are looking for, just no sure how well it will preform in sub-zero temps. Time will tell.

soutthpaw · #2 Sat, January 23rd, 2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 907dave

VERY well said!

The EPA has admitted that the DPF was counterproductive, but was the best thing "at the time". Hopefully Urea injection will be the answer they are looking for, just no sure how well it will preform in sub-zero temps. Time will tell.

And we will all be peeing in our fuel tanks to refill Urea systems

majek5 · #3 Thu, January 28th, 2010, 02:31 PM

E85 also costs $1.25 to make $1.00 of fuel!

soutthpaw · #4 Thu, January 28th, 2010, 07:08 PM

I like your avatar... Though cummins are great engines, just that they ended up in Fia....I mean Dodges... you can get a Cummins in the medium duty Ford truck line by the way....
Oh I read that Fiat is thinking of dropping the Dodge name on the trucks and just going with Ram Trucks....

***907DAVE*** · #5 Thu, January 28th, 2010, 10:30 PM

Have you seen the Fiat Panda yet?

That bad boy is suppose to be America's new fad. Cant remember which Jeep models are being discontinued ( 3 or 4 of them), but this will be their replacement. SWEET

***88Racing*** · #6 Fri, January 29th, 2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 907dave

Have you seen the Fiat Panda yet?

That bad boy is suppose to be America's new fad. Cant remember which Jeep models are being discontinued ( 3 or 4 of them), but this will be their replacement. SWEET

Um.......Er........Ew!
It does look like a panda? Kinda?

***Longshot270*** · #7 Sat, January 30th, 2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 907dave

Have you seen the Fiat Panda yet?

That bad boy is suppose to be America's new fad. Cant remember which Jeep models are being discontinued ( 3 or 4 of them), but this will be their replacement. SWEET

Well they've already discontinued some of my favorites a while back, even though I do like some of the wranglers. I think they discontinued the commander.

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Originally Posted by 88Racing

Um.......Er........Ew!
It does look like a panda? Kinda?

Haha your not the only one, I can see panda-istic designs.

majek5 · #8 Sun, January 31st, 2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by soutthpaw

I like your avatar... Though cummins are great engines, just that they ended up in Fia....I mean Dodges... you can get a Cummins in the medium duty Ford truck line by the way....
Oh I read that Fiat is thinking of dropping the Dodge name on the trucks and just going with Ram Trucks....

I agree the engine is good, it is just what Dodge wraps the engine with!