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4.2L, 4.6L and 5.4L equipped F-150s and Mark-LTs.


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Old Sat, April 30th, 2011, 06:10 PM
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Yes you need a computer with windows to transfer the tunes, you pull the gryphon out of the truck to do it so you don't need a laptop, just a computer.
And the tranny problems that I have seen people talking about recently are with diesel trucks, but they are always possible with our trucks... Longshot or Jack or someone would know more about any tranny problems better than me, they have been looking at them longer
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Old Sat, April 30th, 2011, 06:42 PM
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Yes you need a computer with windows to transfer the tunes, you pull the gryphon out of the truck to do it so you don't need a laptop, just a computer.
And the tranny problems that I have seen people talking about recently are with diesel trucks, but they are always possible with our trucks... Longshot or Jack or someone would know more about any tranny problems better than me, they have been looking at them longer
I believe the transmission problems you may be talking about are with the Edge Juice programmer, which is designed for diesels. There are no transmission problems associated with the Evolution models or, with any of Bill's tunes.

There IS another tuner though, who works primarily on diesel applications, who seems to have a fairly high failure rate among the engines he's tuned. This is not Bill Cohron (PHP), or two other tuners you may have read about: Mike Troyer and Justin Starkey. These three are top-tier tuners and, of course, our personal favorite among them is Bill.

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I believe the transmission problems you may be talking about are with the Edge Juice programmer, which is designed for diesels. There are no transmission problems associated with the Evolution models or, with any of Bill's tunes.
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Ohh I see.. thanks for clearing that up.

So I could disconnect the unit from the car, DL the new software/tune into it and go back to the truck and just plug it in.. Will I have to reinstall it , or will it recognize the gryphon..
Should the truck be returasks ned to stock everytime im going to unplug the gryphon ?

what about if I need to disconnect the battery for whatever reason.. Also I notice that the instruction manual neverbut ask to disconnect the battery. usually this is the case to reset everything , I guess not.
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Old Sat, April 30th, 2011, 11:23 PM
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You can unplug the gryphon at any time, as long as the truck is off. To add or change the tunes that are located on the gryphon you should return the truck to stock before unplugging it. It will recognize the gryphon and you will just need to load the new tunes just like you did the first tunes. The tunes are loaded with the truck's internal memory so unplugging the battery will not affect them. Jump starting the truck is ok to do as well as long as the gryphon is unplugged when you do it. Hope that helps
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Any transmission trouble you read about is a rare case, it just seems like there are a bunch because people usually only post when there is a problem. Some people also don't take as good care of their truck as they should. That will also add to the thread count.

If you need to disconnect your battery it is safe to do as long as the programmer is unplugged. This protects the programmer from getting damaged during an electrical surge.

The only time you return the truck to stock is when you are going to a dealership (and do it days in advance) or if you are plugging the programmer into the computer.
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Ive read the instructions several times and installed my gryphon today. I installed the tranny tune just to get used to the way everything works. I can immediatly feel the difference. It feels much more responsive. I only went around the block to make sure all was ok.

In the instructions, I did not find a section that shows how to return the truck to stock.. what is the proper procedure to do this ??

Thanks guys !! This forum has been really imformative. Even to my dumb newbie questions
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Ive read the instructions several times and installed my gryphon today. I installed the tranny tune just to get used to the way everything works. I can immediatly feel the difference. It feels much more responsive. I only went around the block to make sure all was ok.

In the instructions, I did not find a section that shows how to return the truck to stock.. what is the proper procedure to do this ??

Thanks guys !! This forum has been really imformative. Even to my dumb newbie questions
When you access the power programming menu again, you'll find there is now a "Return to Stock" selection. (It may have a slightly different name.) Just select it and it will return the PCM to stock. And by the way, to answer a question that's often asked, this is the ONLY way the PCM is returned to stock. Disconnecting the battery or the programmer does not "lose the tune".

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