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So i had been driving around with the stock tune all day yesterday just to make my self feel better about spending 400 bucks on this programer. WHAT A DIFFERENCE! I will never go back...

well I program it when i get to school.. go to do the custom settings, and instead of reading 3.55 for gearing or 2424 for tire size... all it showed was +1 or -1... once it went up it would not come back down... so i hit menu to get out of it... Once i went into everything, it all looked different, so i turned the key off... then back on to try again.. same thing, so i programed any way with the previously loaded settings...

i go to drive ita few hours later.. it moved out of the parking spot, then it felt like it went into neutral, and my speedo was reading 120 and the gryphon was yelling at me telling me my speed was 120 cause i set it to warn me when i go over 70... i hit the brakes, and it droped back to 0... i then could hit the gas, and it would move 5 feet and shoot back up to over 100.....

so i pull over, turn it off, and back on... give it gas and she moved, with quite a bit of balls, felt normal... then it got above 5 mph and i lost all power.... it felt like the truck turned off, i went to turn it back on, and it was still running...

so i get out of the parking lot ( i was blocking traffic getting a lot of honks), pull over and set back to stock.... give her gas, and all is well....

i get a mile from my house and say WTH, i'll try it again... went to level 2 again, custom tuning ( axle, tire size) all were normal 3.55 and 2424 not +1 or +2 like before... so i went through and re-programed it AGAIN....

now it is fine...

However i just realized i need to go to the dealer Friday for warranty work, and will need to go through this all over again...

is this a 1 time deal, or do i need some type of update?

The truck was fully warmed up, all power sucking things were off... battery is fine... The truck is a 06 f-150 5.4 4x4 XLT ..

Well this is the first time I have read of a problem like that, but I would definitely say that is not normal...something must have went on with the customs options.

That's crazy, definitely something for Bill. I switch between tunes pretty regularly and have never had this kind of problem. Glad you got it working again though.

Yea, I've never heard of anything like this either. I go back and forth all the time between a towing tune and a non-towing one - no problems.

Sorry, this one is DEFINITELY for the Mad Doctor! :shrug: Bill, I don't see how you stand it!

- Jack

When you changed the custom options, was it during the very first programming session or was it a subsequent session?

If you don't mind, please provide the HEX code so I can take a program a PCM and see what's going on. Also, the exact order you did everything (if you can remember).

I doubt that it would ever happen again but I'd like to take a closer look.

Thanks.

i was in the stock tune, went to program, level 2... yes to customize. When i clicked on gear ratio, it sid +1.. i clicked up and it went to +2... so im wondering what that is about, it should say 3.55 or the like... so i push down, it does nothing, so i hit menu to go back... went to tire size... same thing... then i knew something was wrong, so i turned the truck off, let the gryphon turn off for a few secconds... then restarted it.... same thing... this time i programed restoring previous settings... it did it's thing, "COMPLETE" i turn the key off and go inside for 2 hours... come out and it does what i said...

almost like the speed limiter kicked in when it thought i went over 120 and killed the transmission power.... cause it felt like when i went to accelerate, the clutch got pushed in, and i lost all throttle control...

in hindsite... i have NEVER seen my speedo go from 5-120 that fast before... a .5 seccond 0-60 shown on the screen doing the test would be sweet! i will check it today for a record speed and see if it counted it...

the Hex code, was the code i got when i pluged the gryphon in the first time right? it wont change if i dont let the dealer touch it?

if so it is;

TEJF3PZ.HEX

if it does it again, anything i can do to reset it back to normal... i did not try to unplug it...

record speed... 126... same as my speed limiter....

the rpms were low... like an idle... when i had the gas pressed and i was going 120 mph... (really like 3)

today it ran like a top.... 0-60 in 7.8 secconds.... hardest part is stoping the wheels from spinning, gotta ease into it, but ease to slow and the numbers suck....

i got my gryphon just before x-mas... any new updates?

I'll have to check the documentation, but as a general rule you should NOT use the custom options the first time you program the vehicle. The reason is that there is no calibration data stored in the unit at this time and the custom options routines do not have anything to go off of and the data is (for lack of a better term) corrupt. After the very first programming session, you can then use the custom options with no problem. This appears to be what happened to you and you should not have this problem any further.

This is obviously a bug in the firmware and we'll get it fixed.

Outside of that, if you purchased your programmer after 12/03/2008 then there are no updates at this time.

Take care.

i have had it on level 2, 3,1 a few times....

this is not the first time switching back from stock...

So from now on, i will go a plain level 2, then program... then go back and program the custom stuff and reprogram it?

Unless you are removing the unit from the vehicle or need to go to the dealer for some reason, you should never have to go back to stock. All you are accomplishing by doing that is quadrupling your programming times. You shouldn't have any problem switching between levels 1, 2, and 3 any time you like. If you are having problems, I need to be made aware of it so we can resolve it.

Take care.

I'm going to jump in here because some of you might be confused by what Bill said (in bold). He's talking about removing the unit and sending in to him for work, or removing the unit and transferring it to another vehicle. In both cases, it needs to be returned to stock.

If, however, you enter a tune and then decide you just don't like the looks of the Gryphon in your truck (you're weird), or, you're concerned it might become "liberated" while being parked on some dark street at night (you're cautious), it's perfectly all right to leave the truck tuned to an advanced level and remove the Gryphon. Once the truck is tuned, the Gryphon is simply a monitor, nothing more. When you finally get around to reconnecting the Gryphon, it will show you at the tune level you left it at and everything will be fine.

Bill, I hope I didn't step on your toes here, just trying to prevent misunderstandings.

- Jack

No problem, Jack. I realize now that it could have been misconstrued. You covered it exactly. :2thumbs: Thanks for catching that and saving another question. :D

no, i only went to stock so i could compare stock to level 2... There was a HUGE difference, so i went to go back to level 2 and it happened...

i dont go to stock unless i need to, like yesterday i had to take it out to go to the stealership... i will put it back in tomarrow ( Level 2), if all goes well, it was a one time fluke, no biggy... if it does it again, i'll post back...

thanks