looking at minotaur have some ???'s

[Brandon_oma#692]

Originally Posted by JackandJanet

I see a little right facing arrow next to the phrase: "Originally Posted by Power Hungry". When I click on it, I think I see the post you are talking about.

To do it more directly, go to that post, and then right-click on the post number itself (up in the left corner). Choose "copy Link Location" from the drop down menu and then "Paste" it in your own post, like I've just done here: http://dygytalworld.ehost-services13...03&postcount=2

At least I think this is what you asked. If not, just ignore me.

- Jack

I wanted it to show up in the post like this. BUT with both sides of the conversation. as in me quoting you quoting me (actually me qouting bill qouting someone else)

[soutthpaw]

Ok Im confused on who is quoting who but YES you can modify all the standard files Bill sends you with the Minotaur package. they are not encrypted or anything. This is different from DP tuner for example. you cannot modify his tunes or add your own tunes to empty spaces on his F5 or F6 chips for example. If you want to tune additional vehicles you will need to purchase the MDF files for the specific hex code. if it happens to be a PCM in the same family you don't need additional MDF's Cody can tell ya all about that I think he has a whole collection of them he has never used as there is only a few OEM PCM files that are really good like the PMT1 EBM1 etc... you may have to disable the PATS or reprogram it with something like AutoEngunity software..

[cleatus12r]

Originally Posted by soutthpaw

YES you can modify all the standard files Bill sends you with the Minotaur package.

This is correct!

Originally Posted by soutthpaw

they are not encrypted or anything. This is different from DP tuner for example. you cannot modify his tunes or add your own tunes to empty spaces on his F5 or F6 chips for example.

Well.......

Originally Posted by soutthpaw

If you want to tune additional vehicles you will need to purchase the MDF files for the specific hex code. if it happens to be a PCM in the same family you don't need additional MDF's

This is also correct. By family, DJ means the "DPC" code. DPC-203, DPC-402, DPC-411, etc.

Originally Posted by soutthpaw

Cody can tell ya all about that I think he has a whole collection of them he has never used

Yeah. In addition, there are a lot of definition files (mdf) that will work with other families......but not all of the correct values will match up. Some binary will, most won't.

Originally Posted by soutthpaw

as there is only a few OEM PCM files that are really good like the PMT1 EBM1 etc... you may have to disable the PATS or reprogram it with something like AutoEngunity software..

That's mostly true. Yes, PMT1 is my absolute favorite as I tow a lot and I'm not in what most would call a high altitude (3900 ft.). However, listening to a lot of other people (especially in altitudes like yours DJ), the PMT1 is not the best for towing there. I don't know this for a fact, but certain other codes do not have such....uh..."abrasive" converter lockup strategy.

PATS....what a joke. GM has had a similar system for many years (Pass-Key. 3 versions of it) and every one is a piece of garbage.

[Brandon_oma#692]

Even after the chip is installed some pcm's work better than others? ie pmt-1 pmt-2 are better than xxx-x. I am unsure what my code is I will look tonight.


How much of a difference doesit make? Can my xxx-x be turned in to a pmt-1 or 2? Or is a swap required? Where to purchase, average price, worth the cost?

[cleatus12r]

It depends on the year of your truck, man.

Get the code and we'll let you know what's available!

[kord]

I'm looking into buying the Minotaur package and possibly an extra chip for my dads truck and from what I've read it sounds like I'd have to buy other files to tune his truck because we have different PCM codes. His code is XLE-4 and mine is NVK-4 is there any way I could get away with using just one set of files and still tuning both trucks? Thanks for the help

[cleatus12r]

Originally Posted by kord

I'm looking into buying the Minotaur package and possibly an extra chip for my dads truck and from what I've read it sounds like I'd have to buy other files to tune his truck because we have different PCM codes. His code is XLE-4 and mine is NVK-4 is there any way I could get away with using just one set of files and still tuning both trucks? Thanks for the help

NVK4 "officially" uses a VNAA8 definition while the XLE4 uses the VHAE9 definition. Trying to use either one of these files with the "wrong" definition will not work. Some things "line up" in the parameters, maps, and functions but most do not and it would be impossible to tune.

The right thing to do would be to buy both definitions and get the base files for each truck. However, with the expense of purchasing both, it might not be financially feasible to do. Besides unless he absolutely HAS to live with his XLE4, it's not worth trying to tune it to do anything worthwhile.

What I would do in your case would be to upgrade his truck to a DPC-422 PCM (his is a DPC-402 now) and both of you could run any tuning you wanted to; be it both NVK4, PMT1, or whatever you wish since they'd be in the same family.