California Smog Inspection

[soutthpaw]

here is the testing manual from CA in PDF... so it lists everything that is pass or fail. The chip is generally hidden so most smog techs that are not well versed on diesel would miss it.... Might be worth using stock or have Bill make a no smoke tune if it fails under stock setting
http://www.autorepair.ca.gov/80_BARR...08-09%20V3.pdf
Folks wonder why Banks stuff costs so much, other than all the money he spends on advertizing he pays lots of $$ to CA to get EO numbers for all his products... Not sure about Edge, Bill probably knows more if they have an EO number or not. EDIT: here is EDGE's take on EO numbers Edge Products: Customer Support

Maybe Bill can add more but I am sure as tunes are "Custom" each special tune would probably need an EO number... Oh, my FSR would not require emissions as its over the 14,000GVW... pre 1998 diesels don't require CA emissions testing either
From CA DMV website "Currently, smog inspections are required for all vehicles except diesel-powered vehicles manufactured prior to 1998 or with a Gross Vehicle Weight (GVWR) rating of more than 14,000 lbs , electric, natural gas powered vehicles over 14,000 lbs, hybrids, motorcycles, trailers, or gasoline-powered vehicles 1975 and older. "

[gabeyd]

Can we pass with the chip in (on stock setting I guess), or will the OBD II give some code that says there is a chip, or something else? I was planning on removing mine, but I'm not due until August, so I have some time for all of you to figure out the details for me...

Some say remove the chip, and then you have to drive a certain amount of time, or a certain number of key cycles after removing it to cycle out all the codes? Anyone know what the real story here is?

[Power Hungry]

The diesels are much less of a problem in regards to the P1000 problem because they don't have all the Evaporative equipment like gas vehicles do. In most cases, a couple key cycles will clear that right out. Also, we recommend switching to stock or a low HP program (25 Tow, for example) and you should pass just fine. Other than that, the chip doesn't leave any tell-tale codes unless you're getting Overboost, Intake Heater, or ICP codes which can easily be cleared by disconnecting the batteries for a few minutes. If you have a scan-tool, it's that much easier to keep tabs on that sort of stuff.

[fifity]

So if the phoenix is int he stock position and the tech hooks up an obd scanner, they wont be able to tell the chip is hooked up?

If so then

[cracknut]

Makes me glad I got the gryphon. I'll program back to stock and remove it for the test.

[Jackpine]

Please notice what Bill said, cracknut. When you program back to stock, it will set a P1000 (drive cycle) code that will cause you to fail, if the code is still set. He said a couple of "key cycles" should clear that code out, but I would not take it to the smog test unless I had driven the truck for about a week to make sure.

We advise people with the gas tunes to just leave the tune in and remove the Gryphon and cable, so the smog folks don't see it. Nobody's ever failed by doing it this way.

- Jack

[huffer7.3]

Got the smog inspection done...
I left the chip in and move it to my 40tow tune to do the visual smoke inspection.
The test is a complete visual inspection. He told me that any modification to the fuel system would require a carb number.
No problems with the my intake heater removed or overboost either.

Any big mods i would spend a day to remove them go test and then put them back on if they were going to be an issue.