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Old Wed, June 23rd, 2010, 11:17 AM
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I can't comment on your Tom Tom, because I don't have one. Mine's a Garmin hiking GPS and it measures both current speed and elapsed distance. I just sat it up on the dashboard and confirmed the speed. The position accuracy is within 10-16 feet (WAAS enabled) and the steady state velocity accuracy is 0.05 meters/sec which is about 0.1 MPH if I converted properly.

Regardless, I suspect your GPS measurement is pretty close too. When I apply the error to your TS figure: 22.8/23.3 X 2575 = 2520, which is VERY close to the original 2522 figure that you started out with, and which I still think is closer to the right value.

Honestly, I'd put in 2522 and call it good enough until you get some data that PROVES otherwise.

Edit: Guess I was slow in giving you an answer. Compare your Tom Tom's speed with the Gryphon's speed.

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I can't comment on your Tom Tom, because I don't have one. Mine's a Garmin hiking GPS and it measures both current speed and elapsed distance. I just sat it up on the dashboard and confirmed the speed. The position accuracy is within 10-16 feet (WAAS enabled) and the steady state velocity accuracy is 0.05 meters/sec which is about 0.1 MPH if I converted properly.

Regardless, I suspect your GPS measurement is pretty close too. When I apply the error to your TS figure: 22.8/23.3 X 2575 = 2520, which is VERY close to the original 2522 figure that you started out with, and which I still think is closer to the right value.

Honestly, I'd put in 2522 and call it good enough until you get some data that PROVES otherwise.

Edit: Guess I was slow in giving you an answer. Compare your Tom Tom's speed with the Gryphon's speed.

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Thanks and will do on the speed. The original TS of 2522 however proved to be too low according to the Camry, which we "suspect" to be accurate. I'm going to set at about 2550 and see what I get. I'm about to depart on a 180 mile journey as we speak. I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks again.
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My favorite method is the "3 roll" method. This has always proven to be extremely accurate and takes into full account for tire pressure, tread depth, and any tire squish.
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According to my GPS, I'm over on my odometer approximately 4 miles over a 140 mile ride.....and the speed on the GPS was consistently 1 to 2 mph fast on the Gryphon compared to the GPS. HOWEVER, the mile markers on the interstate made it seems like I was a little under on the odometer!!! I'm going to trust my GPS on this one and scale the TS back I think.

BTW Jack...regarding my shifting issue we spoke about in the other thread, I've confirmed that it's only when there is load on the truck. I had to come up some hills to get to my parents house tonight. On an incline, every shift from 1 to 2 was rough and there was a physical "bump" present from the rear end. I'm not sure if I want to play with the settings on the Gryphon to fix or let my mechanic feel it. Appreciate your write-up though in case I decide to play with it myself.
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According to my GPS, I'm over on my odometer approximately 4 miles over a 140 mile ride.....and the speed on the GPS was consistently 1 to 2 mph fast on the Gryphon compared to the GPS. HOWEVER, the mile markers on the interstate made it seems like I was a little under on the odometer!!! I'm going to trust my GPS on this one and scale the TS back I think.

BTW Jack...regarding my shifting issue we spoke about in the other thread, I've confirmed that it's only when there is load on the truck. I had to come up some hills to get to my parents house tonight. On an incline, every shift from 1 to 2 was rough and there was a physical "bump" present from the rear end. I'm not sure if I want to play with the settings on the Gryphon to fix or let my mechanic feel it. Appreciate your write-up though in case I decide to play with it myself.
4 miles in 140 miles is a 2.9% error. Multiply your current TS by 0.971 to correct to the GPS reading.

You shouldn't be in any danger playing with the part throttle shifting yourself. I think I'd REDUCE the 1-2 upshift and downshift by the max (-2) and then maybe add to the Torque Converter unlock/lock speeds by the max for both 1st and 2nd gear. (I'm trying to keep the TC from locking right away so I think values of +2 in 1st and +3 in 2nd might work. Anyway, it's worth a try.

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4 miles in 140 miles is a 2.9% error. Multiply your current TS by 0.971 to correct to the GPS reading.

You shouldn't be in any danger playing with the part throttle shifting yourself. I think I'd REDUCE the 1-2 upshift and downshift by the max (-2) and then maybe add to the Torque Converter unlock/lock speeds by the max for both 1st and 2nd gear. (I'm trying to keep the TC from locking right away so I think values of +2 in 1st and +3 in 2nd might work. Anyway, it's worth a try.

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Thanks I might just do that. I'll let you know how it works out.
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Hey Guys,
I had to buy a new set of tires so I have to reset my TS in the Gryphon. I went back to the stock tire size of 275/65/18.
Right now with the Gryphon set at 2560, My GPS is showing 2-3 MPH slower than the Speedo. The Gryphon is showing in between the GPS and the Speedo.
Should I increase the MM size and how much?
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4 miles over at 140 miles? I'd say that is really close. Personally I would leave it. I'm currently in the process of dialing my tire size in aswell. Just got a set of cooper discoverer atrs and I'm loving them.
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