Im a newbie to tuning

[444smoker]

Originally Posted by 444smoker

with this software i can tune for my 96, question is can on of my friends buy a chip from you and we tune it with the same software? im sure we can i just dont know if you have to buy additional software for the differant pcm code that he has.

Robert

I think i found the answer to my own question, $250 per RDT file (pcm code is what im understanding this to be).

Robert

[Power Hungry]

I was reading what Corey had posted and I can see a place where there may be some confusion so I wanted to take a second a clarify.

The MDF files (which used to be RDT files) are not changed depending on whether you have modifications or not. They are what they are and are based on the vehicle's PCM family. What she was referring to was that when we send a definition file, we include some base calibrations along with it. These do not include tuning for injectors or any other major modifications. We can provide customized base files for an additional charge.

Other than that, you are correct. $250.00 will get you another definition file to use on a different family of vehicle.

Hope this helps.

[John]

Out of curiosity, how many MDF's are there?

[cleatus12r]

There are dozens of .hex definitions....however, there are only about 8 that are worth having for 49-state applications. A few others for the California emissions models.

Take a look here....
http://www.thedieselstop.com/faq/949.../pcmcodes.php3
In the last column there is a "Template". Match the first 5 digits and separate them into groups....then count how many groups contain the same first 5 digits.

For example, AEB0, AEB1, 2, 3, and 4 are all DPC-461 computer codes. However, they each require a different RDT to properly make tuning adjustments because the "template" is different. In this case, it is common practice to use one RDT and corresponding base file to tune with. (I know, preposition at the end of the sentence is wrong!!) To make it more complicated, match the DPC-461 with any other DPC-461 and you can put an AEB3 tune in GDU0-4. As an example, it's common practice to use PMT1 in any DPC-422 PCM.

[444smoker]

Ahh that makes sense, So i just ran outside and checked out my pcm code and its a DPC-202 and it has the NAW4 code in it, would there be a better code to base off of than the NAW4 from the link it looked like there were quite a few codes for the DPC-202?

By the way thanks Bill for clarifying that for me it all just klicked for me.

Robert

[cleatus12r]

Originally Posted by 444smoker

So i just ran outside and checked out my pcm code and its a DPC-202 and it has the NAW4 code in it, would there be a better code to base off of than the NAW4 from the link it looked like there were quite a few codes for the DPC-202?



Robert

A resounding YES!!

NAW4 SUCKS. TDE1 is the one you're going to want. So, regardless of who your chip comes from, order TDE1. Also tell the operator that you want a 3-4 shift at 41-43 MPH...not 10.

[444smoker]

Originally Posted by cleatus12r

A resounding YES!!

NAW4 SUCKS. TDE1 is the one you're going to want. So, regardless of who your chip comes from, order TDE1. Also tell the operator that you want a 3-4 shift at 41-43 MPH...not 10.

Seriously ha ha!! I hate that in my stock tune it shifts into 3rd and lock the TQ right at the same time, who ever thought of that needs a slap in the face.

Within the next week or two im going to be ordering the minotaur software package here from Bill and am going to start working on it myself. So i will let him know (Im sure he already knows without me telling him) to go for the TDE1 code.

I know the Minotaur software is pretty new but it seems to be getting popular and i think it is going to get really popular IMO! But how willing and open is everybody to share data and email files back and forth with each other? I personally would share any bit if info or files i create with anybody, But thats just me, I was just curious if everybody else viewed it the same way or if you all keep to yourself with files and data.

Robert

[soutthpaw]

Talked with Bill last night and he is going to use the 2001 EBM1 DPC-452 VRAA6 base files as he says it has better shifting than the EBM2 or 3 files... Only thing I will need to do is disable the PATS functions... which is fine with me cuz I hate the damn thing..... Only have one matching key anyway which is ziptied to the ign column But he is gonna do that on an initial set of canned tunes so it makes my initial setup and install as easy as possible :thanks: Bill

I guess the EBM 1 2 3 are similar to the PMT 1 2 3's used in the trucks? If I remember the PMT1 is the preferred PCM due to shifting quality right? I would think the shift patterns on the Excursions are different from the F250s due to the max CGVW and that u cannot gooseneck or 5wheel an Excursion. They probably are a bit softer for that SUV effect too

[cleatus12r]

Originally Posted by soutthpaw

I guess the EBM 1 2 3 are similar to the PMT 1 2 3's used in the trucks? If I remember the PMT1 is the preferred PCM due to shifting quality right?

Since the definition files used for each are the same (EBM1/PMT1 are VRAA6 and the EBM2/3 and PMT2/3 are VRAA7) I would assume that the shift characteristics would be very similar.

There are certain aspects of PMT1 that are better. With the way my wife and I drive when unloaded, we would never know a difference. The differences really start to show up when towing (as well as racing...so I hear...but we don't do that). Namely the forced 4-3 downshift TC strategy and the WOT lockup.

[soutthpaw]

Yay Just got the MDF and some binaries from Bill. He had to shut down for a bit due to thunderstorms but I got a few questions about the interface and values
is 0=off and 1=on for things like PATS
There are 2 columns in Parameters. is blue the original values for the stock PCM file and blue the modified value or is Blue the stock sett for the specific binary that is loaded, say 100 HP tune

Under functions there are items like FN012, FN013 and so on? what the heck are those??? some explanation please