intake and exhaust

rammertide07 · #1 Wed, August 17th, 2011, 08:18 AM

I had an EGT probe go bad, so instead of buying another $50 probe that will last a year, I'm going to buy an Interceptor gauge. It's kind of like a gauge with a limited function of Auto Enginuity. It can display estimated EGT temps or you can buy a probe and hook it into an aux port in the back of the gauge. Check it out....

"Power Stroke edition including bidirectional controls for injector buzz and cylinder are included in standard version."

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***cleatus12r*** · #2 Thu, August 18th, 2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rammertide07

It can display estimated EGT temps or you can buy a probe and hook it into an aux port in the back of the gauge. Check it out....

"Power Stroke edition including bidirectional controls for injector buzz and cylinder are included in standard version."

Estimated EGT?

I looked at the page (admittedly, I didn't spend a lot of time looking), but couldn't find this information. I would LOVE to know how they estimate that since if it is offered, it's likely a calculation of mass fuel, RPM, and time. That sucks if you have larger injectors because that throws the mass fuel stuff right out the window. I'd hate to risk my engine relying on a calculation when it's cheap to buy an actual sensor that will tell me exactly how high my exhaust gas temperature is.

In addition (and hate me all you want for saying this, but it's my opinion and we all have one), the layperson should not have access to tests that they don't understand. I'm not targeting you, but for 99% of the people out there who buy diagnostic equipment just to run "buzz tests" and "contribution tests" without knowing what they're looking at/for, only leads to lots of frustration of changing out #3 and #8 injector repeatedly because they always come up bad. That's small beans compared to throwing in a new set of injectors because a certain cylinder came up in the contribution test....only to find out after thousands of dollars that the cylinder in question simply had a broken rocker arm.

It also amazes me how much bad information comes out of having the ability to do a "buzz test". Easy example: White smoke due to unburned fuel with a rough idle CANNOT be diagnosed with a buzz test. Besides, those symptoms CANNOT be caused by an open or shorted electrical connection between the IDM and the injector. People will have other folks chase their tails for DAYS suggesting a "buzz test" for a concern like this. "Oh, check your valve cover harness".....no, that will not help you locate your problem in that case.

Now that I'm done venting, HATE ON!!!!!!

turbosuzuki · #3 Thu, August 18th, 2011, 10:58 AM

no hating buddy lots of great info. just had a contribution test done on mine and was told the number 8 was bad so i payed 357 bucks for 1 injector, truck runs the same.

just had my muffler put back on my 5" exhaust and the truck felt faster with stock exhaust

. sorry to get off topic

***cleatus12r*** · #4 Thu, August 18th, 2011, 11:11 AM

Nothing is off-topic here! Let it flow!

turbosuzuki · #5 Thu, August 18th, 2011, 11:59 AM

cool, as soon as my tundra sells i will be ordering my chip

. wifey put my spending on hold till i sell it though.

ticopowell · #6 Thu, August 18th, 2011, 10:04 PM

That is what I am waiting on... money from selling my tires and tonneau cover and Gryphon, after those are gone Ill get the phoenix and an insight for guages

. and yeah, no such thing as off topic here, I want to learn as much as I can since i've never done anything with diesels before... except breath in their smoke!

just a thought... one injector is $357?! all eight cost $1100 for remanned units.. gotta love the stealership!

ticopowell · #7 Thu, August 18th, 2011, 10:53 PM

so i clicked on an ad at the top of this page and it took me to "dieselsite". after looking around I saw a few products, such as the wicked wheel, and now I have a few questions. First: what is the benefit of a wicked wheel and how would I know that I need one? I read that it helps get rid of "turbo surge". so second question: what is turbo surge?
I also saw a "intake heater plug" that says it helps unblock the intake. is this an issue? does this $9.00 part really make a difference in performance?
next question: are the intercooler and turbo boots that they sell worth it? do they help keep up pressure? do the stock ones really suck that bad?
Thanks for the answers!

rammertide07 · #8 Wed, August 24th, 2011, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleatus12r

Estimated EGT?

I looked at the page (admittedly, I didn't spend a lot of time looking), but couldn't find this information. I would LOVE to know how they estimate that since if it is offered, it's likely a calculation of mass fuel, RPM, and time. That sucks if you have larger injectors because that throws the mass fuel stuff right out the window. I'd hate to risk my engine relying on a calculation when it's cheap to buy an actual sensor that will tell me exactly how high my exhaust gas temperature is.

In addition (and hate me all you want for saying this, but it's my opinion and we all have one), the layperson should not have access to tests that they don't understand. I'm not targeting you, but for 99% of the people out there who buy diagnostic equipment just to run "buzz tests" and "contribution tests" without knowing what they're looking at/for, only leads to lots of frustration of changing out #3 and #8 injector repeatedly because they always come up bad. That's small beans compared to throwing in a new set of injectors because a certain cylinder came up in the contribution test....only to find out after thousands of dollars that the cylinder in question simply had a broken rocker arm.

It also amazes me how much bad information comes out of having the ability to do a "buzz test". Easy example: White smoke due to unburned fuel with a rough idle CANNOT be diagnosed with a buzz test. Besides, those symptoms CANNOT be caused by an open or shorted electrical connection between the IDM and the injector. People will have other folks chase their tails for DAYS suggesting a "buzz test" for a concern like this. "Oh, check your valve cover harness".....no, that will not help you locate your problem in that case.

Now that I'm done venting, HATE ON!!!!!!

No hatin here Cody. I understand what you're saying about "estimated" EGTs...I felt the same way about it. BUT, if you do read more into it you will see that the gauge has an optional Aux. port where you can plug in an actual EGT probe... IIRC. And I understand about people doing the self tests.... kinda an iffy subject I guess. It's handy to have for those who know how to use it. But for some, it can confuse them worse.

rammertide07 · #9 Fri, August 26th, 2011, 08:05 AM

More information on the sensor kit...

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