Power Hungry Performance Forum  

Go Back   Power Hungry Performance Forum > Power Hungry Performance Product Information > Gryphon Programmer (Disabled)

Gryphon Programmer (Disabled)
Edge Product has discontinued the Edge Evolution 2, but we still provide support and tuning for it.

If you have a question or comment relating the Gryphon (or Evolution) programmer, post it here.


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old Wed, December 31st, 2008, 11:20 AM
Dfishrmn's Avatar
Dfishrmn Dfishrmn is offline
Double Whopper
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 30
Dfishrmn is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Power Hungry View Post
Jack, you're doing fine.

Where we run into a problem with heavy towing (2500+) on a performance tune has more to do with cylinder temps being slightly higher because of the slight modifications to the fuel curve. I wouldn't necessarily say it does any "damage" to pull in a performance program, it's just not the ideal situation.

High performance applications are leaned out slightly to achieve good top-end power. Tow tunes run a little richer for improved low-RPM torque and lower cylinder temps under sustained heavy loads.

Of course, there are shift changes and timing changes but that has a lot less to do with it than you'd think.

Anyway, as you've already guessed, 2000 to 2500 lbs is about the limit for a performance program before I'd switch to towing.

Hope that clears it up a little.
Does this pertain to loads in the bed of the truck? I infrequently load the truck 1500-1800# for short trips (25-50 mi) Is this safe in the 87 Performance tune or should I switch to Tow.
__________________
2005 F150 XLT SuperCab 5.4L V8 4x4, 3.73 LS Rear end, Auto Spring 2" Leveling Kit, Gryphon tuner custom 87 Performance tune, AEM Panel Air filter with modified stock intake, 14" Magnaflow muffler
  #12  
Old Wed, December 31st, 2008, 12:31 PM
Jackpine's Avatar
Jackpine Jackpine is offline
PHP Groupie
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Among Elk, Deer and Javalinas on the Mogollon Rim in Aridzona
Posts: 3,243
Jackpine is a name known to allJackpine is a name known to allJackpine is a name known to allJackpine is a name known to allJackpine is a name known to allJackpine is a name known to all
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dfishrmn View Post
Does this pertain to loads in the bed of the truck? I infrequently load the truck 1500-1800# for short trips (25-50 mi) Is this safe in the 87 Performance tune or should I switch to Tow.
Using 2000# as a "breakpoint", as Bill suggests, you could leave the tune alone. The 1500-1800# in the bed is going to be harder on your suspension than it is on the engine or transmission, so I'd try to keep the speed down with that much weight aboard. In fact, I think that much weight is a bit over the GVW or axle rating for your truck. When towing, you only add the tongue weight (usually 300-500#) to the GVW and axle loads.

- Jack
__________________

2024 F150 Platinum SCrew 3.5L PowerBoost FX4, Peragon Tonneau Cover, LineX Bed, 35% Window Tint on All Sides and Rear, Full Nose Paint Protection Film, Husky Mud Guards, Lasfit Floor Liners, VIOFO Dash Cam
  #13  
Old Wed, December 31st, 2008, 09:14 PM
Power Hungry's Avatar
Power Hungry Power Hungry is offline
The Godfather of Power Stroke Tuning
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Winder, GA
Posts: 2,264
Power Hungry has much to be proud ofPower Hungry has much to be proud ofPower Hungry has much to be proud ofPower Hungry has much to be proud ofPower Hungry has much to be proud ofPower Hungry has much to be proud ofPower Hungry has much to be proud ofPower Hungry has much to be proud of
Default

1800 pounds in the bed is pretty steep for an F150. I wouldn't really be worried about how well the engine would handle it, but more how the axles would handle it. That rough!

In case, the weight limit is how much you're pulling. Whether in the bed or behind it is of little consequence. You should be fine in the 87 program.

__________________
Bill Cohron - The Mad Doctor

Power Hungry Performance - The ORIGINAL in Ford performance tuning... Since 1997!
(678) 890-1110

www.gopowerhungry.com - Home of the Hydra Chip, Minotaur Tuning Software, and the new Orion Reflash System for Navistar!

Bring back Windows™ XP and 7.
Windows™ Vista and Windows™ 8 is a pain in my a$$!
Windows™ 10 is only slightly less annoying!
Windows™ 11 is garbage!

Much to my surprise, I'm actually quite enjoying Linux!
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:57 PM.


All Contents Copyright 2008-2024, Power Hungry Performance