Questions about Gryphon

SubiGT · #1 Mon, May 25th, 2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rednoved

I would return it to stock. You never know when they might mess with something. Better safe than sorry.

I agree. The less the service department knows about my aftermarket tuner of choice, the better. I remove the unit and re-flash stock whenever I go to the dealer.

Question for Bill if he reads this. Is there a max number of re-flashes like some other manufacturers ECU's are purported to have? I know my Subaru has a max in the 200-250 range of re-flashes. No one seems to know what the exact number is. I was just curious if Ford had this limitation as well.

average-joe · #2 Mon, May 25th, 2009, 08:25 PM

My ford dealer WON'T re-flash my truck and they are ok with the Gryphon,ive talked at length with them about it,so that i'm not worried about.

***Jackpine*** · #3 Mon, May 25th, 2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by average-joe

My ford dealer WON'T re-flash my truck and they are ok with the Gryphon,ive talked at length with them about it,so that i'm not worried about.

If you are absolutely certain they won't reflash you, then there's really no reason to return it to stock. Still, I'd unplug the Gryphon and leave it at home. No sense tempting fate. You can just pull it out of the pod and unplug it at the back of the Gryphon, leaving the pod and cable in place.

- Jack

average-joe · #4 Mon, May 25th, 2009, 08:42 PM

My advise if you use a Ford dealership is to have them note on your file/account in bolt letters ****DO NOT RE-FLASH PCM****
Dealers will bend over backwards to keep you happy today.

Thanks jack for the reply i needed.

***88Racing*** · #5 Mon, May 25th, 2009, 11:21 PM

Put it back to stock if the battery is going to be disconnected for a couple of days. Remove unit so it doesn't grow legs.

Lars

***Power Hungry*** · #6 Tue, May 26th, 2009, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SubiGT

I agree. The less the service department knows about my aftermarket tuner of choice, the better. I remove the unit and re-flash stock whenever I go to the dealer.

Question for Bill if he reads this. Is there a max number of re-flashes like some other manufacturers ECU's are purported to have? I know my Subaru has a max in the 200-250 range of re-flashes. No one seems to know what the exact number is. I was just curious if Ford had this limitation as well.

Not that I'm aware of. I've reflashed test PCMs literally hundreds of times without incident. Who know what tomorrow will bring, though.

SubiGT · #7 Tue, May 26th, 2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Power Hungry

Not that I'm aware of. I've reflashed test PCMs literally hundreds of times without incident. Who know what tomorrow will bring, though.

Thx, just curious.

BlackSTX · #8 Wed, May 27th, 2009, 02:12 PM

Having worked in a dealership, I'll say most techs won't mess with it; however, you can never be sure about some goofball wanting to give it a look and changing something, or walking away with it. I think they're right, take it out of the truck.

kd4crs · #9 Wed, May 27th, 2009, 09:00 PM

The best advice, which covers all situations when taking your truck to a dealership, is: Always, always, ALWAYS, return the truck to the stock program and remove the programmer. That way if they do flash it, no harm done. At worst, your hex code may change and if you have custom tunes they will need to be updated. With the programmer in your possession it should not get away from you.