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1997 to 2003 F-150
4.2L, 4.6L, and 5.4L equipped F-150s.


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Old Thu, September 17th, 2009, 09:50 AM
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sooo did taking the hypertech off do anything lol, i didnt see if you did or didnt
I hope this will give us all an answer...About 4 weeks back I took the battery out for well over an hour to have it tested because I was having a different issue and I re-installed a new one. Being that the battery was out for over an hour, wouldn't that reset the computer and put the Hypertech tune back to stock? If yes, then the truck still had the lag/pause issue. If not, then I have to literally remove the tune and give it a shot. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try it anyway but the Hypertech takes an eternity to program.

How long does it take to re-program with the Gryphon?

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Old Thu, September 17th, 2009, 10:10 AM
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I hope this will give us all an answer...About 4 weeks back I took the battery out for well over an hour to have it tested because I was having a different issue and I re-installed a new one. Being that the battery was out for over an hour, wouldn't that reset the computer and put the Hypertech tune back to stock? If not, then I have to literally remove the tune and give it a shot. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try it anyway but the Hypertech takes an eternity to program. How long does it take to re-program with the Gryphon?
Ok
From my understanding of tuners/programmers is this.
Once the pcm is flashed with a new tune it cannot be removed unless reflashed.
I assume the Hypertech has the same proceedure as the gryphon.
So by removing the battery, the pcm's memory has not been altered due to the pcm's flash memory.
However the Keep Alive Memory resets and sends a p1000 code and the only way to get rid of this is by the drive cycle reset. This takes 50-100 miles.

The gryphon only takes about 5-10 min to program initially for canned tunes with custom options. The canned tunes are kinda similar to the hypertech tunes, they fit a lot of trucks. But when you get one with custom tunes only about 2 minutes.
Custom tunes are for you and your truck only. They don't work on other trucks that are the same as yours.

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Old Thu, September 17th, 2009, 10:18 AM
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Ok
From my understanding of tuners/programmers is this.
Once the pcm is flashed with a new tune it cannot be removed unless reflashed.
I assume the Hypertech has the same proceedure as the gryphon.
So by removing the battery, the pcm's memory has not been altered due to the pcm's flash memory.
However the Keep Alive Memory resets and sends a p1000 code and the only way to get rid of this is by the drive cycle reset. This takes 50-100 miles.

The gryphon only takes about 5-10 min to program initially. But when you get one with custom tunes only about 2 minutes.

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OK, so here's my next question. If I remove the Hypertech program manually and there is no pause/lag by no longer having it installed, will I be dealing with the same issue if I get the Gryphon? I will go crazy if I get the Gryphon and I still have the same issue with pause/lag.
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OK, so here's my next question. If I remove the Hypertech program manually and there is no pause/lag by no longer having it installed, will I be dealing with the same issue if I get the Gryphon? I will go crazy if I get the Gryphon and I still have the same issue with pause/lag.
There is a slight possiblitiy with the canned tunes due to they are for a lot of trucks.
But as of yet I have not heard of or read any throttle lag issues with a gryphon canned tunes on your year of truck.

Canned tunes come with the gryphon same as the edge evo's. Custom tunes are written by php and loaded into the gryphon via pegasus online at your house.

The custom tunes that Bill writes hardly ever need any touch ups.

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